http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft pulls apart a Kinect camera, tickles your non-gaming fetish http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
How about I surprise you instead? The Kin died 5 weeks ago. Microsoft has abandoned the project.

The Kinect on the other hand, has some real promise. Voice and facial recognition is pretty cool. Anytime technology can become more aware of its environment and react to that input in a useful way, good things happen. Its way cooler to say "hello xbox" to sign in, then to find a controller, scroll through the menus, find my gamertag, and sign in manually.]]>Aug 7th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/"I killed the Kin. A long time ago in a matter of fact"
Did you at least do it whilst you were in a galaxy far, far away?]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/I'm going to cut it to you straight, if you want to buy a motion controller for those types of games, you are going to be disappointed. Different controllers are good for different things - I doubt you will find a compelling reason to buy Kinect if you are only interested in FPS'.]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
Move won't be as successful as the Wii, but it will be better than Kinect for sure.

I mean, just look at the facts, Sony tried this with PS2 EyeToy and it wasn't successful.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ZAswRZaAQ

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFyEqpDOf8U

Kinect only has cacual, family games.

While PSMove has hardcore, casual, family, shooter games.

Kinect doesn't have not even 1 shooter game on its library. ]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
I actually think the other way around. I think the EyeToy will be successful but not as much as the Kinect. The same kind of games that are being made for the EyeToy can be made for the Kinect and hold a regular remote instead or a stick, Kinect can see any object you put in front of it, it doesn't need a light to capture the motion. The EyeToy is similar to the Wii while the Kinect has way more innovating possibilities. We'll see what happens though. ]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/I know you want to believe that they are the same thing, but the difference is much larger than you would like to believe - firstly look at the hardware:

The Playstation Eye is one camera and one microphone. most input via the cam is found by comparing images to see what has changed, thats how it reads movements. It also has facial recognition capabilities (not sure if Sony has yet implemented them - They are with Move though)

Kinect has that same tech within both cameras, as well as sending out an infrared beam which bounces back and is read by either one or two of the cameras. This way it literally builds up a 3D image of what is being sensed.

Now this is where Microsoft comes in, using facial recognition software via the VGA cameras, and skeleton mapping via the depth sensor - it knows where you are. All of this has been taught to the camera via software, which allows them to refine the algorithims and give them to developers.
]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Also seeing as we can put in links, and to further my last point:

Microsoft are using people on Amazon's Mechanical Turk service to teach Kinect how to recognise people sitting down:
http://kotaku.com/5605936/is-this-how-microsoft-will-fix-kinects-couch-problem]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/True, but MS has a larger Casual gaming group than Sony does and I still don't see "hardcore gamers" using the move more than a controller. They may try it to see how it works, but it will NEVER be as good as a controller, especially in multiplayer games.

Regardless of whether or not Kinect has a shooter in its library, nobody will or would use it for those types of games.

In the end, the Move will either do just as well or fail just as hard as the Kinect.]]>Aug 7th 2010 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
There is nothing in that article to even prove your statement remotely true. The whole article is conjecture and a rumor until proven otherwise.]]>Aug 7th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/I agree about seeing more games. The ones I saw at the Kinect website seem like Wii type games. I'd like to see a FPS type game in the mix.

It will be interesting to see what happens. Will MS lure Wii gamers? I think they can. Savvy shoppers can buy just one console that will appeal to different types of gamers.]]>Aug 7th 2010 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 8th 2010 7:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/It uses infrared light to pick up people, skin colour doesn't matter here, neither does the room lighting.

And full body skeleton mapping isn't good enough for a boxing game?
I want what you are drinking.]]>Aug 8th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
I KID, I KID!]]>Aug 7th 2010 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
Hehe you think M$ would do like the rotten Apple? Guess what those front facing cameras do hehe]]>Aug 7th 2010 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Actually the motor is for rotating the upper half of the unit, It will rotate to keep you as close to the center of the sensing area as possible.]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
that's a cheeky avatar. not sure whether i should uprank or downrank you.

motor is for tilting up and down, trying to keep you in the center of the cameras I presume.]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
oh man, legos are ridiculous now! so much branding! i remember back in the day just random kits of legos with random pieces. Like a big bucket of legos that you just build stuff out of your imagination. Went into the lego store at the mall the other day and everything's a movie tie-in. I expected the star wars stuff, but prince of persia, really?

It's sad I think. While you could get creative with it, seems like people just want to build what's on the box. Legos were great because you weren't putting together a puzzle, you were making the puzzle. I think future skyscrapers around the world are all going to look the same. :/]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
Funny, It seems I was still pretty early on in the growing up thing at 14. Your growing up right now!]]>Aug 7th 2010 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/Aug 7th 2010 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/It looks like Johnny 5 lives on smack in the middle of that thing...]]>Aug 7th 2010 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/07/microsoft-pulls-apart-a-kinect-camera-tickles-your-non-gaming-f/
... then my life will be saved by a yellow chevy camaro who is really an autobot named bumblebee, and a whole new adventure starts...]]>Aug 7th 2010 4:02PM