http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/ Engadget Comments for Flash ported to iPhone 4, available for download (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Apple should just give their consumers a choice on whether they have Flash installed or not. This is just an unnessisary way of getting Flash on your iPhone.]]>Aug 8th 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/can i download it for the ipad too ???]]>Aug 8th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Look up Frash for the iPad. ]]>Aug 8th 2010 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Works great on my iTouch 3G. I'm spending the rest of the afternoon on Homestarrunner.]]>Aug 8th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/So uncalled for. Realize that some people also have a life outside of the Internet and might sometimes go for a whole month not knowing how to jailbreak their latest toys. Crazy, I know. But they have a right to live too!]]>Aug 8th 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Customers make that choice when they buy an iPhone.

Once this gets a proper release 50 million iPhone will say "is that it, is this what everyones been wanting? Bleurgh"]]>Aug 8th 2010 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/they do give you a choice, the choice is to stop feeding them and move to Android]]>Aug 8th 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
WTF did you even read the fucking article?]]>Aug 8th 2010 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
If you would just read the article (instead of just the title), you wouldn't have this problem ]]>Aug 8th 2010 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/It truly amazes me at how Apple is such a successful company even though they cripple their capable devices so much. They have one of the worst company philosophies to ever exist. Even worst than Microsoft.]]>Aug 8th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/The problem is the industry now widely accepts that for Mobile platforms, HTML 5, CSS 3, and JS can offer everything that Flash can, but do it in a way that uses less CPU cycles which in turn means better battery life to the consumer.

So if these new standards can do it better than Flash, why not just wait until all web applications are re-written in it, and stick with Flash for the mean time, thus giving punters a choice?

Because people are lazy, particularly developers.

If a company knows that Flash isn't going anywhere any time soon, and is combatible with the iPhone and other hugely successful handsets, then they're not going to invest the time and the money necessary to move over to new the technologies of modern HTML, because they know theres no risk that there content won't be available to everyone.

This is a problem, because as consumers we care about our overall experience. If rich web apps can run better than Flash, and give us better battery life, we want that. But we're not going to get that, unless we make sacrifices along the way.

But lets be frank about this.
We're not really making sacrifices, I've used Flash on the N1, and its hardly a desirable experience.

Flash relies on MouseOver events, and because of this, ultimately, it fails to offer any credibility as a Mobile platform.]]>Aug 8th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/"The problem is the industry now widely accepts..."

No they don't.]]>Aug 8th 2010 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/rysle is clueless.. he's the reason why Apple can spread garbage and get away with it..

When I hear them say HTML5 can do the same things as Flash does.. that's the end of the conversation for me.]]>Aug 8th 2010 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
People who bitch about flash not running on iPhones are 99% hysterical droid users with limp dicks and fat fingers... WHY is there no RV movie support while were at it... Oh yea... Cause it sux and nobody wants it. Keep banging your pudgy little fingers away on your giant plastic droid phones about Steve jobs and his kool aid droid boys... Your making each other proud lol]]>Aug 8th 2010 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
You are clearly not a developer, not a real one at least, maybe a html designer or script kiddy. ]]>Aug 8th 2010 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/I'm a developer... and I'm not lazy... and you are downranked...]]>Aug 8th 2010 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
This is what I'm talking about. I might even ball up and buy an iPad if the final Frash build look good and functioning well. Also, Flash is not for the faint of heart so anyone try it with a lower-end yesteryear devices will have problems.]]>Aug 8th 2010 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Sorry to hijack but what's with all the apple posts lately? I like reading about them but where's the Evo love?]]>Aug 8th 2010 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Even though what you're saying is true, you can't deny that apart from games, websites using menus in flash primarily rely on mouse over... At least in my experience.

@rysle

I kind of agree with you. As much as I would like to have Flash on my iPhone, I can see this as a good thing also. Because Apple refuses to put flash on their device, the transition between flash and HTML5 is probably moving a lot faster.

Let's be honest people if you had a Flash website and you knew that millions of iOS devices wouldn't be able to see your website, what would you do?

That being said, there is no reason why Flash and HTML5 can't coexist... In the end, I just want to be able to see the content whether it's because Apple added Flash or because websites where converted to HTML5...

]]>Aug 8th 2010 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 9th 2010 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 9th 2010 2:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
The first thing I would try with this is just ONLINE GAMES.
Yes they poop over the AppStore anyday and the sooner other platforms (fingers crossed MeeGo) get this the better it is for the consumer.
The AppStore is Apple's "Golden Egg" and when a competitive alternative is available on more open, cheaper and perhaps better devices, we can stop with the concept of "iPhone killer"]]>Aug 9th 2010 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 9th 2010 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Welcome to the world of choice iPhoners!!]]>Aug 9th 2010 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/"Flash relies on MouseOver events, and because of this, ultimately, it fails to offer any credibility as a Mobile platform."
MouseOver's actually work on a multi-touch device in Flash, as Adobe has demoed in the past (look it up on YouTube). It's not always the best user experience, but it's no different from old HTML content that also uses MouseOvers.

As for battery life getting better with HTML5, considering there's also tests out there with Flash running faster, using less CPU than animated HTML5 content, since Adobe uses more of the GPU in Flash Player 10.1 where most HTML5 content is all CPU right now, you aren't going to get better battery life with HTML5 content. It's just right now there isn't much HTML5 animated HTML5 content out there. However, go to the various HTML5 canvas experiments out there on your iPhone and (if they work, since these experiments still generally target the desktop) watch how quickly your battery drains.

Also as a developer I'll add that it's not laziness that content isn't changed and updated, but time and money. There's plenty of developers out who aren't lazy, but they aren't going to redo websites for free on their own time because the technology has changed. Companies need to find the budget to do these sort of projects.]]>Aug 9th 2010 7:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/If I had a Flash website and knew that millions of iOS users couldn't use it, I wouldn't give a shit.

Every single one of them has a *real* computer, right? So what's the big deal here?]]>Aug 9th 2010 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Huh?

I run javascript on my iPhone every time I browse the web.

Robust javascript support was one of the defining features of the original iPhone in 2007, RIM is only just catching up with it with the torch, Android, Chrome WebOS and Symbian use webkit based browsers because of javascript support.

Some of the Droidtard army are unbelievably ignorant.]]>Aug 9th 2010 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
If you're in NYC, and want to check the restaurant's web page. Many of them are flash. Many of which can't even be seen without flash.

It's my only gripe on having the 4g.]]>Aug 9th 2010 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 9th 2010 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/when you own something you....forget it if your still rooting for iphone then your obviously for someone else making your decisions. sorry to bother.]]>Aug 9th 2010 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 10th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Sorry, you said EVERYTHING?? perhaps your not very bright or you just havn't read up on exactly what HTML5 can do??

For a start, HTML5 cannot connect to a webcam or microphone so that renders it pretty much useless for any chat or live webcam based site.

HTML5 prohibits browsers from making any way to programmatically enter full screen mode. It allows browsers to provide a way to view video full screen but not other elements. With Flash a user click action can trigger full screen of any content.

It cannot do Peer 2 Peer.. so that's live streaming/file sharing out the window.

And a big letdown is that HTML5 cannot Manipulate Binary Data whereas Actionscript can. This is very important when working with network protocols and file types and codecs.

There are many more reasons why HTML can never compete with flash and some of the missing things which it cannot do just cannot ever be done with it.]]>Aug 12th 2010 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/Aug 8th 2010 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Why? What do you really need it for? I've had iPhones for 3 years and yet to find out what I'm missing from not having flash??]]>Aug 8th 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
90% of embedded content/dynamic content on the web?]]>Aug 8th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/I meant Cydia apps in general. I, too, have only rarely missed flash on my 3GS.]]>Aug 8th 2010 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/flash-ported-to-iphone-4-available-for-download-video/
Like? Ads? Again, what crucial things have I missed?]]>Aug 8th 2010 4:49PM