http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
OK, who started all the Jason implementations, and why?]]>Aug 13th 2010 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
NVM, silly me, I just looked at the date...*sigh*]]>Aug 13th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
LTE is behind Wimax on "coverage" so I don't see a reason for Sprint to switch anytime soon. ]]>Aug 13th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
Sprint is using Clearwire for their WiMax service, which Sprint owns about 56% of now. Clearwire has recently come out and said that they will begin tests to run both WiMax and LTE at the same time. If they are able to do both at the same time and be stable then I see them still building out WiMax and then LTE on top of it until the LTE part of their Network catches up to the WiMax part, then they will go full on with LTE. I don't think they will get rid of their WiMax network for at least 3 years though because of their current WiMax devices.]]>Aug 13th 2010 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/I don't see why either company would care, 999 out of 1000 people in SF have iPhones ]]>Aug 13th 2010 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Why would you write an article about one city? So short sighted.]]>Aug 13th 2010 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
Actually Sprint is MUCH more aggressive than we know. Sacramento wasn't even on the list of deployment this year, yet they've been doing a lot of trials and my 4G works in the entire area! I am impressed! I know it's not official yet, but it might as well be!]]>Aug 13th 2010 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 14th 2010 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
where is 4g working in Sacramento?]]>Aug 14th 2010 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Last time Sprint changed any technology they left user sand buyers of their handset completely high and dry, with two months notice that their handsets would be completely none functional, and no exchange credit would be given. Sprint began as GSM and was GSM in most markets for several years. I had just purchased two $400 Sprint GSM handsets, when Sprint announced a month later that two months later they were converting our city to cdma. NO credit for my $800 and no unlocking so I could sell the handset. I don't think they will do that again with wimax to LTE, but don't say it can't happen.]]>Aug 14th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 14th 2010 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
Who cares about San Francisco?]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
But, but .... I like mother's basement!]]>Aug 13th 2010 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
Verizon anticipates 100% of its current coverage will be LTE by 2013. They've been funneling a *lot* of money into infrastructure over the past few years.]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
What is that in the checkmark? Is that jas.. OH GO]]>Aug 13th 2010 9:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
i just want to let you know your comment is appreciated by at least 1 reader :)]]>Aug 13th 2010 10:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/the biggest advantage that lte has over wimax is the adoption by major carriers. Most all carriers have committed to lte. This will make r&d cheaper and easier to implement on a large scale than wimax. ]]>Aug 13th 2010 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 14th 2010 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 14th 2010 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 14th 2010 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
it's a means of data delivery and Sprint has the spectrum to keep it cheaper and uncapped. We know what VZ and T will do b/c they have limited spectrum.

So give me my Epic 4G already and let's commence to downloading!]]>Aug 13th 2010 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
Sprint has so much 2.5Ghz spectrum it doesn't matter. Even on the LTE 2.5 trials Clear is running they can provide much higher speeds than Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile can on LTE. Most of the big boys (Verizon is the only one I know for sure, others will follow I'm sure) can only do 10mhz channels. Clear & Sprint have the spectrum to do 20mhz channels, or for all you math whiz's out there, thats twice the throughput. Clear stated that their LTE trials are aiming for 20-70Mbps to VZW's 6-12Mbps.

Not even mentioning how everyone says LTE is better because of the lower freq. In the US, that's true, but in the EU LTE is on 2.6Ghz bands, so not only will it still require multi-band radios, but it will have worse penetration than WiMax overseas.

WiMax is far from dead. Mark my words.]]>Aug 14th 2010 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Wimax maybe far from dead, but I think it will in future be confined mostly to laptop devices. If you have read about the dual wimax/LTE chips Sprint floated as a stopgap to put in handsets the whole deal is a mess. There are economies of scale. CDMA already suffers economies of scale issues on handsets with profound implications That's why ATT got iPhone and not Vz. They had equal user bases but GSM has a vaste worldwide base. CDMA, plus wimax is a very small potential user base, less than 6% of the market and trending down and handset makers are going to look at that number and either charge more, make inadequate stock (eg evo), or skip it entirely in many product lines.]]>Aug 14th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/
Where there's demand, there will always be supply. No one is going to leave money on the table over a non-issue like WiMAX vs. LTE. To the end consumer (who gets new devices every two years) the argument is moot. Uncapped usage with great speeds and reasonable prices will always have plenty of demand.]]>Aug 14th 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 14th 2010 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/san-francisco-in-verizons-initial-30-market-lte-rollout/Aug 13th 2010 10:26PM