http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
How is spraying on a grey-colored dielectric coating a costly redesign, again? It'd still be metal, feel like metal, just... not destroy reception when capacitively coupled by your fingers. This is NOT a difficult problem to fix. ]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
Not an iPhone user or owner of any Apple products, but I have been holding back on commenting on any of the iPhone antennae articles up to now due to such heated debate on the subject.

I have just traded my Samsung Omnia 2 for a Samsung Alias 2 for personal use and have a Motorola work phone. Since this whole issue started appearing on the websites I've paid attention, well more attention that I did previously, to how I hold my phones and how others do so. Personally I have never held a phone in the lower section "death grip" that I've seen demonstrated on the web.

My flip phones I hold right at the bottom of the top section just above the hinge when talking. My hand goes there naturally by the way I open the phone with one hand (left) pulling in out of a belt holster (left side). I feels really uncomfortable to shift it around so that I hold it on the lower part of the lower section. I would definitely never hold any flip phone that way.

But the iPhone isn't a flip phone now is it. So on to the Samsung Omnia 2 that I just got rid of after a year or so (and prior to that a first gen Samsung Omnia). I pull it from a holder on the same side (left) and hold it so my grip is near the top of the phone. On the first Omnia, which was my first candy bar smartphone I held it with my thumb hitting this little hoop that you could hook a wrist strap through, but always at the top of the phone.

Even when operating the touch screen I do not ever grip in down low. I never type blackberry style with my grip low and thumbs together. I type with the phone kind of lying on my finger tips and extending my thumbs down like I am trying to touch my pinkies when I type. Those same pinkies might end up in the lower 1/3 of the phone but that is all.

What I am trying to say in a short and to the point way......is that I could see myself testing the iPhone for months of normal everyday use and never once touch the antennae the way it is needed to cause the problem. I am sure a great number of other users could also. I would think that the people testing the phones would just pick them up and use them as they do other phones and not try to operate the phone in some manner that was not normal to them.

Just my 2 cents. ]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
Hate to invalidate paragraphs of typing, but how do you explain this?

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You're not invalidating anything in my paragraphs with that link. Like I clearly stated "I" never hold my phones that way.

Even the two Omnia touch screen phones (which I moved away from actually due to the fact they both had issues with the touch part of the screens failing several times) I never held it so that the palm of my hand was against the side of the case like that. When using the touch screen I hold it in a two hand kind of grip if I am typing with my finger tips on the backside of the phone near either edge and my index fingers on the top back corners.

If I am using it one handed I balance it on my fingertips of the left hand with the index finger again on the top back edge and use my thumb only to do the input but the side of the phone could not be farther from my palm.

That part of the phone on my Omnia is where you plug in the charger/USB cable and I can operate it with the USB cable sticking out and plugged into my laptop without changing my grip at all from normal. Maybe that is why I learned to hold it that way and can't ever see myself holding it any other way, such as in your pictures.

Anyways to make a long story ...well long...nothing you could possibly say can invalidate my stated opinion, as it is just that. If I don't ever hold a phone that way then I am quite certain that at least a small percentage of others do also. ]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/I think it was funny how they stoped the 'antennagate' vids after people(including engadget) called bullshit. When the iPhone goes down, people will never look at them as underdogs anymore, except fanboys.
]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/First off, I've had enough with the company bashing. Seriously, it gets old. Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, you name it and someone's going to be there to start the flame war. I have a Dell desktop at home for photoshop and gaming and I have a Mac Pro and MBP for work and personal use. I love gaming and I realize that Macs aren't great for that, but I also know that my 3 years of video editing on a PC drove me nuts and it's been mostly pain-free on my Mac. I realize that some people dislike Apple and others dislike Microsoft and while I enjoy a well written critical comment, the flaming I read on here is ridiculous. You all sound like pre-teen girls screaming when someone tells them that they dislike Twilight or something.

Anyways, I've always found conspiracy theories amusing, though I will say that some of the political ones make a small degree of sense... though I think 99.9% of them are just wild imaginations.]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
Then the iPhone was made perfectly for you. Fact is, the problem still exists. Your paragraphs don't diminish the problem, it just points out that some might not notice the issue if they a) hold it like you described b) live on top of a tower c) have a very resistive skin conductivity, etc, etc.]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
The case is the case. They use a case to hide the iPhone 4, so it was impossible to see the problem in normal use situations.

And, sorry, but, if there is a problem I have the right to know BEFORE buying anything.

Pointing the finger to ALL the others companies was so NON-Apple-way to resolve this.

]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
Of course most conspiracy theories make sense. That's the entire point. They're someone's idea of what is entirely plausible, and barring a few jumps in logic or minor mistakes, most are entirely possible. It's possible that the US could have orchestrated 9/11, and then covered it up so much that nobody could have ever come out to speak about it. The easy way to contradict that and apply Occam's Razor (which is really all that is required to debunk most conspiracy theories) is by saying "Either there was a massive and super-well-guarded conspiracy in which everything was orchestrated so perfectly that no official evidence has ever leaked out ooorrrr the government is just massively incompetent (as they are with most everything else they run) and had little to no idea (or had an idea but were too incompetent to react)."

Same works for the Moon landing conspiracy. Either they faked the moon landing so perfectly that nobody could ever recreate their results and then destroyed all evidence (including all props and papers) and killed all the actors, ooorrrrr we went to the Moon.

Occam's Razor. Helps solve nearly every conspiracy. Except for the few that really are complicated and true, and that's what keeps all the other insane ones alive.]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Apple was giving money to ATT so that the later would sell only crappy android phone, leaving to the customer who want ttouchscreen smartphone only one choice: the iPhone.

I actually think this one is real, because AT&T s getting better speced phones now that the iPhone exclusivity s coming to an end. ]]>Aug 14th 2010 11:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/good call. I see that happen in my industry all the time, nobody wants to be the negative person in the room.]]>Aug 15th 2010 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
I wonder why I can't reproduce the death grip issue, no matter how I touch, poke, rub, hold any area of the phone.

Maybe it's because I'm not a FAT american with poor hygiene and filthy sweaty hands.

I like demonstrating my iPhone 4 to people and they can't reproduce it either I even suggest licking it as a way to make it happen.

The biggest conspiracy theory of recent times is how all these whining people suddenly became antenna experts and continuously tried to force their views on others in one of the most disgusting displays of group whining I've ever had the misfortune to witness.]]>Aug 15th 2010 5:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
Couldn't have put it better myself. Conspiracy theories gain wait entirely because they sound plausible on a superficial level.

Although Apple totally set up that lost unit.]]>Aug 15th 2010 5:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 15th 2010 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 15th 2010 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/I used to work in manufacturing. Although it sounds easy and cheap to just spray a coating over the metal (the obvious fix), any manufacturing process is not easy, quick, or cheap. You need to figure out what formulation of coating will work and won't rub off over years of use, you need to establish vendor sources and relationships, develop the spraying and drying process, logistics of shipping the bands to the sprayer and then to assembly. It's a big deal and costs millions to develop and establish any manuf. processes on a large scale. We are talking about Apple, so they can do this if they want, but don't you think it's too late for the iPhone 4 at this point? They are already working on iPhone 5. ]]>Aug 15th 2010 9:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/I would agree with you Mike,

except when you actually put Occam's Razor to the collapse of WTC 7 you get an entirely different outcome. Building falling near free-fall, symmetrically in the path of greatest resistance. Occam's Razor easily says thats a controlled demo because any other force would be astronomically impossible to collapse that building with ALL of those characteristics. So you see, Occam's Razor works to a degree, just depends on the context of HOW you apply it.]]>Aug 15th 2010 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 15th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Apple had to have know about the antenna issue, what did they do lose the prototypes...oh wait!]]>Aug 15th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/There's theory going around that there will not be a part 2 of this article.....]]>Aug 15th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
"except when you actually put Occam's Razor to the collapse of WTC 7 you get an entirely different outcome."

No it doesn't. Your model is incomplete.]]>Aug 15th 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/There were some jewish terrorist from Mossad caught cheering during the 9/11 attack. I dont understand why every conspiracy theorist need to be grouped up into one. I personally am critical about 9/11 but not about the moon landing since I have received enough evidence of it being true.

On the day of 9/11 there was a third building called World Trade Center 7 that fell to the ground like dust from concrete cement. To this day I can not get a good reasoning for it other than that I'm a nut for questioning it. ]]>Aug 16th 2010 12:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 16th 2010 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Jesus christ dude, calm down. It was a decent article. ]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/To waste 2 minutes of your life...and done...good work article, mission accomplished!
]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
i'll still continue to read and post in the comments though as i usually have absolutely nothing better to do. ]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Although you could have also said the iPhone-Verizon, or the HP-Palm or etc... If there is an article that will be released every couple days, it must have a special meaning, this article ia just lame.
My 2 cents.]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
No it was trite and wreaks of damage control. Hackneyed, a tumultuous harangue even.]]>Aug 15th 2010 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
I don't know man, the best argument against a conspiracy theory was "Puleeeze."]]>Aug 15th 2010 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 15th 2010 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
Connect the dots...]]>Aug 16th 2010 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 16th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
And R2-D2 uses an iPhone!]]>Aug 15th 2010 6:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/That's because everyone here thinks it is true (it isn't). ]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
How is it a theory? That's called fact. Big difference.]]>Aug 14th 2010 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/Aug 14th 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
your internet has ads?]]>Aug 14th 2010 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/14/entelligence-conspiracy-theory-part-one/
The "writ.. ," bloggers on Engadget clearly, like every other human being, have preferences and those preferences seep like a Daniel Plainview "oilgasm" to the surface of every anecdote they make. It's sophmoric and shows a fundamental weakness in the ability to write objectively. These aren't rewonkulous accusations, their....founded. *Looks Confused.* Does this mean conspiracy? No. Does it mean rudimentary consumer advice...absolutely. Anytime you've reached an absolute in a forum or article that is said to be news related, unbiased and steeped in consumer education you're "writ...," blogging it wrong. I don't care if my favorite device, or one that I lust, gets a perfect score from my little human powered search engine here at Engadget...their god awful. But they are great at gathering news like little autumnally minded squirrels scurrying along gathering chestnuts, for that and humor I love Engadget. But seriously, Toplar Tree, (where the squirrels live!) next time your on National Television try not to have a bitch fit.....you're like the Chad Kroger of Editors, master your domain, pimp'n!]]>Aug 15th 2010 1:38AM