http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Yeah, sure. It's not like every manufactures making gajillion models of all-of-the-same netbooks are crowding out the market. No. It's Apple's one device. :rolleyes:]]>Aug 17th 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
Yea thats right, cause you know better than the CEO of ASUS..
:rolleyes:]]>Aug 17th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
A netbook does useful things that an iPad is simply not allowed to. The fact that it is just another PC can be of tremendous value. The iPad is a first to market consumer concept that still is deeply flawed despite Apple's attempts to distract it's audience.

It's like a Wii. Hopefully the "nifty" aspect will be adopted by the rest of the industry so that we don't have to be trapped by a particular single vendor's inherent limitations.]]>Aug 17th 2010 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aww, just face it. The "useless" iPad is bitch-slapping the netbooks silly. Steve must have been right about those cramped keyboards, tiny displays and sub-par user experience. I guess the netbook knows who its daddy is now. Hehehe.]]>Aug 17th 2010 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
Honest questions:

Has anyone actually heard Asus officials saying that the iPad was to blame for the lowered results, or read an official statement?

Has anyone actually heard or read ANY company specifically naming a competitor's product as the reason for its difficulties?

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Yup, plus the appstore, touchscreen and keyboard-less. Pluses for me.]]>Aug 17th 2010 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
You know Adobe Flash is an optional download on Netbooks, right? If you don't want it, don't download it. Simple as that. Don't know why that was even brought up in relation to a Netbook when it doesn't even come preinstalled or as a forced download.]]>Aug 17th 2010 5:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
That would be because the guy thought he was clever. ]]>Aug 17th 2010 7:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
I think I read somewhere that Microsoft doesn't actually make computers...]]>Aug 17th 2010 4:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 5:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
You know there is a reason why people buy window 7, right?]]>Aug 17th 2010 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/They don't "buy" it, it comes pre-loaded on their PC. It's the main reason why Bill Gates is so wealthy.

Back on topic, Apple is going to sell over 12 million iPads in 2010. They are killing the demand for netbooks, and not just at ASUS.]]>Aug 17th 2010 9:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 3:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
Asus did NOT blame someone else. They said, the iPad only one of the many factors, and NOT even one of the biggest factors.

You people think Asus singled out the iPad as the main reason is because of the Apple spin media like Engadget puts in these news to attract readers. ]]>Aug 17th 2010 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
When I bought mine they (On purpose) made it a no-OS device, bringing the cost down and allowing you to install Linux without the "Microsoft Tax", though I knew a guy with a Technet subscription :)]]>Aug 19th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
however, almost everyone I know who think they could use a netbook already have one...]]>Aug 17th 2010 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
Here's one.]]>Aug 17th 2010 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
I bought an Acer Aspire One, then I bought an iPad. I use one of them almost daily and one of them almost never.

Would you like to buy the Acer?]]>Aug 17th 2010 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
you do have a "real" computer though, do you? which gets us to the difference of a netbook vs. ipad, you "must" have a real computer somewhere and a netbook can fill that role and for the majority of people I know who've bought netbooks, they use it to fill that role of having a real computer(even if underpowered, it's still an upgrade if you're coming from a totally usable computer thats 8+ years old), whilst tablet like devices are strictly an extra - extension window to that computing world.
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FYI, you could've gotten a netbook for free and saved $800, I think that's the rational play, but some people like the iPad, good for you. ]]>Aug 17th 2010 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
The thing about iDevices is that what you pay for them is not lost like regular phones or computers. A netbook today in a years time is worthless. But an iPad will retain it's value if kept mint condition. So at the very worst, he'll easily get $600 of that $800 back AND has spent a year enjoying his device. Getting top of the range is ideal for these scenarios, retain value even more. I've been doing this for 4 years with iPhones now, enjoy them, sell them, add a bit, upgrade.]]>Aug 17th 2010 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 6:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
Are you suggesting that net books are real computers?

If a net book is the best computer that you can afford, then you need a job.]]>Aug 17th 2010 7:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
yeah, i'm suggesting that you can actually use netbooks for things like web development, editing your thesis,coding, encoding and decoding of audio and video(now even hd), torrenting and all that - usually faster than your average desktop from few years back. so if you last upgraded your computer in 2005, then a todays netbook can be a real improvement on something you used as a real computer for 5 years - would be funny to not call it a real computer especially since apps haven't gone that far in that time at all(compared to 1995->2000 timescale), netbooks tend to have right connectors too, so replacing a beige box with one can be a real no brainer.

and I got a job - but majority of the people who I know who've gone for netbooks do not have a job(a career like job anyways)... so that's another angle why it's weird to state that ipad cut to their sales badly, maybe it flew as a good excuse to the board. though a more proper explanation might be that the market is overcrowded and economy has been slow.

fwiw I never considered netbooks to be good form, I like my lappies to be 15" for proper touch typing and pixel size. the phone is plenty enough for the occasional web browsing on the move, when I wouldn't carry a netbook, nor a tablet, with me anyways.
]]>Aug 17th 2010 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/My "real computer" Acer netbook does have some things my iPad lacks:

It has a whiney little fan that runs all the time and gets really noisy when Flash loads.

It has a crappy 600 pixel tall screen that cuts off the bottom of most web pages and forms. The viewing angle of the screen is much narrower than the ipad's screen.

It has a six hour battery (four running Flash).

It has Windows, and that means it takes 1-2 minutes to start up, or about 30 seconds to resume. Windows like to nag me and try to sell me crap I don't want, and for that I truly hate it - every time I use it.

It has a real keyboard and a kiddy-version trackpad. The combination is not awful, but it's not useable without overhead lighting.

My net book has lots of readily available spare parts, a good thing, because they're mostly plastic and break frequently.

]]>Aug 17th 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
I have the Vaio X with 64 GB SSD, front facing cam, 2 usb ports, Intel Atom 2GHz processor, Windows 7 Pro, 2GB RAM and Verizon 3G. The Netbook weighs 1.5 lbs (similar to an iPad) and at .55 inches is almost as thin as an iPad. Not only that...but it has an 11.1 inch screen. Before I forget both SD and Memory stick slots and comes with a 2 hour and 10 hour extended battery. Vaio X includes GPS too!

I bought the Vaio X back in Dec as a Christmas gift for my wife. When the iPad was announced I laughed at it as not being worthy....

Then checked one out at the Apple Store. Was blown away by the usability and today it is used every single day, while the Vaio X (an awesome net book) sits on the shelf. The Vaio X with carbon fiber body is just a beautiful machine.

The biggest difference is usability. The iPad doesn't do everything the Vaio X can, the Vaio is far superior for creating presentations (although I have recently figured out how to use Keynote on the ipad and it is pretty neat...) but for pretty much everything else the iPad is way better. Better for web browsing, better for emails, better for games, better for media, on the whole apps run much smoother on the ipad and the instant on and all day battery irrespective of what I do with it and the fact that it doesn't get hot to the touch are other great attributes of the iPad.

Apple knows product management and a good product is always more than the sum of its parts. Anyone one can build a product by checking off a spec sheet, but how the whole thing works from a user experience perspective is the real deal.

I am not surprised netbook sales are suffering. I was wondering what would happen at Best Buys when people could compare iPads next to net books. At my local Best Buy at least the iPad is always out of stock. Apparently, the sell like crazy!]]>Aug 17th 2010 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
Windows 7, too limited and "compared to OS X mobile" don't fit in the same sentence.

What kind of crack are you on?

I may have only bought the low-end iPad, but it's still not as useful as my 11.6" Acer. Useful and fun are not the same. So is productive and fun. My Acer can do anything the iPad does and more, but it's just not as fun. I still standby my opinion that the iPad really is just an oversized iTouch, sans the minor changes in experience due to varied elements such as size and resolution.

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Exactly this. I sold my laptop' bought a netbook when I got my iPad, ended up selling that because eit got no use, then my roommate gave me his netbook, an extremely well built asus netbook, still found it barely useable compares to my iPad so let him keep that, finally just bought / built another desktop for any serious gaming and for when I don't feel like typing papers on my iPad for university.

No one is telling me their netbook is more useful than an iPad except for viewing flash content (poorly) and that's about it. I've had Dell minis, asus', played around with a friends acer netbook, none of them compare in user experience, convenience, or ease of use. In the time it takes some of my friends net books to turn on and render imdb to look something up, I've already hit the imdb app, gotten the answer, and responded to an email. This is just one example of many of how I believe the iPad is the death knell of the netbook and possibly the resurgence of the desktop.]]>Aug 17th 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/
Very good point. I just bought an iPhone4, and to pay for it, sold my 2 year old 3G on eBay. More than covered the cost of my new phone (on contract).]]>Aug 17th 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/asus-downgrades-eee-pc-shipment-forecast-blames-ipad/Aug 17th 2010 4:43AM