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connorg

June 6th 2011 9:53 pm

Ask an iOS 5 user anything!

I'm running an iPhone 4 and iPad 2 under the new iOS 5 beta now. I haven't had a ton of time to play around with them yet but feel free to ask me anything!

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connorg

Two quick things I noticed that haven't been brought up anywhere else that I know of:
1. You can use your device while it syncs! The first beta doesn't actually support wifi syncing but while syncing my newly restored and updated iPhone and iPad, I was able to turn it on and start using apps right away, even while the rest of my apps and files were still syncing. A spinning sync icon appears in the upper left while a sync is taking place.
2. The split keyboard is nice but I wish there was a way to tell the iPad to default to using the split keyboard while in portrait mode and the full keyboard while in landscape mode. I've gotten used to setting down the iPad and can already type pretty quickly in the landscape keyboard, but the default portrait keyboard is totally useless to me except for hunt-and-peck. Tie split keyboard is great for thumb typing but I wish it would switching between the two depending on the device orientation.
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foxyNinja

Does email flagging actually work with exchange accounts? Will the flagged messages show up as flagged in outlook?
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connorg

Yes! I can confirm that flagging an email in my exchange inbox instantly made it appear flagged on Outlook.com.
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ranhalt

Does the Wi-Fi sync start as soon as you're back on the network? My dream was that you drive into the garage and you're already syncing.
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connorg

But as far as I can tell (and from what I understand) the default is only to sync when you're plugged in to a power source. You can also force it to start a sync from the General settings page.
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connorg

Beta 1 doesn't actually support wifi syncing yet.
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robinrath

Any more commonly used apps not working, i.e. facebook, twitter, evernote, etc?
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connorg

Again, I haven't had a lot of time for "normal" use yet, but I haven't experienced any unexpected behavior in any third party apps yet.
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Nick1980

For us Brits - the National Rail Traintimes app is completely busted. A real nightmare for someone like me who lives out in the 'burbs and commutes into London - that app was invaluable.
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amjustice

If someone texts you on you iPhone can you respond from your iPad?
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connorg

Nope. iMessages on iPad only supports iMessages, which is separate from regular SMS/MMS.
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italiano40

Is imessager enabled and can tells us about it?
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connorg

It is, but so far I don't know anyone else with iOS 5 and so I can't actually use it...
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kyerussell

How awesome is iCloud?
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connorg

Pretty awesome, but I think they're still polishing it off before the real launch. The real power is going to be when most third party apps support it and all your apps can sync seamlessly.
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darqfaux

Yes. JT's Continuous Client dreams realized. www.engadget.com­/2010­/05­/26­/a­-modest­-proposal­-the­-...
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jeffwk

Hey I just read your post and got the ios5 beta running - would be keen to try out the imessenger function if you want to trial it.
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connorg

My email is cgraham07 -AT- gmail.com. Go ahead and send me an iMessage!
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connorg

Jeffwk and I just had a decently long iMessage conversation. It seems like a cool system--not drastically different from SMS using the Messages app, but a bit nicer. There were some weird glitches (he sent me a picture message which showed up to me as a blank message) and for some reason it wasn't working between multiple devices (I only received messages on my iPad. When I sent him a message from my iPhone he said it showed up in a separate thread). But I'm sure those issues will be cleared up before the full launch, possibly even by the next beta.
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foxyNinja

If you want more testing, I'd love to at brewbass[at]gmail.com
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refractured

Awesome!
1. Notifications- Can you clear the entire list?
2. Also in the Notifications, it looks like there is indeed a weather and stocks widget. Can you have those appear on your lock screen?
3. Safari iPhone 4- does it also have tabbed browsing & reader?
4. Any change to the passcode feature? Still numeric input?
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connorg

1. Not that I can tell. You can clear all the notifications from a single app at a time, but not the whole list.
2. Nope.
3. No tabbed browsing. No Reader as far as I can tell. It has Reading List but even that was sort of hard to find (to add an article you press the share button and then pick Add to Reading List, but to actual see your reading list you have to open your bookmarks and go up to the top level folder).
4. Nope, still just 4-digit passcode (or full password).
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paralyzer

Are there new wallpapers in ios 5?
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darqfaux

Wallpapers are buggy right now. None show up in the wallpapers view. So, no?
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cjtylr

Yeah, there are no new wallpapers, and in fact, it looks like they took them all away! (It's just a bug, none of them are showing up).
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amjustice

I know that wireless synching isnt working yet but my big question is if/how do playlists sync? If I change a playlist on my mac will it show up that way on my iPhone later?
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connorg

Not so far. Playlists don't sync over the air. I assume they still sync only when you do a full sync with iTunes (which currently is only available through the USB cable).
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amjustice

Bah, I really hope they do this because without the playlists who cares if my music auto downloads, I dont shuffle my purchased folder. Hopefully they will do this in the end and its just not available yet.
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connorg

I agree--I change my playlists around a lot and it would be a big deal to have those changes sync instantly across my devices.
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cjtylr

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's going to go both ways. If you change a playlist or download a podcast on your computer it will sync to your iPhone. If you change or add a playlist on your iPhone it will sync to your computer. It'll be just like normal sync but without a cord.
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PhilLee

I'm a registered developer (who doesn't develop) and am tempted to try beta 1 out on my iPad 2. How stable have you found the build?
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foxyNinja

I've been running it for about a day now, and I haven't run into any weird behavior yet. It seems a bit slower, and many apps don't treat the split keyboard correctly (of course), but other than that, no issues yet. I think you're safe to try it!
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cjtylr

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cjtylr

It's pretty freaking stable. I'm not a developer, but I bought the iOS Developer access just so that I could play around with betas like this. I have it installed on my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 that I use for general use everyday and there's no single bug that's making it unusable as a general phone. I enjoy it very much and find many of the new features extremely helpful and awesome.
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therichad

Is it really buggy? Would you recommend updating an iphone used for everyday use or strictly for testing?
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cjtylr

It really depends how much you rely on your phone and what your tolerance of bugginess it. There are a couple bugs, core apps crash more frequently, some apps don't work, but it's not terrible by any means. In fact, many thing it's the most stable beta Apple has ever released. It's quite nice. I put it on my every day use phone and iPad.
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kyerussell

I just threw iOS 5 on my iPad . Feel free to hit me up on iMessages or whatever: me@kyerussell.net.
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kyerussell

I'm only willing to put iOS 5 on my iPad, so I haven't had the opportunity to play with Photo Stream, but judging by the keynote, this is how it works:
- You take a photo
- Photo is pushed to interwebs.
- Photo is pulled to Photo Stream on your other devices.
- You lose the photo on your other devices after it's out of the latest 1000 photos, UNLESS:
- You save it to an album.

I'm going to assume that I'm right. If I am:
When you save it to an album, does it stop syncing across? How does syncing work?
When you save it to an album, is it taken out of Photo Stream?

If I'm wrong, please correct me? ;)
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Rygar

Does iOS 5 have more Bluetooth profiles? Specifically BiP, FTP or OPP?
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ecentricus

Excuse me I have the IPhone 4 and love it and I need to decide what to do about my laptop as it is not very powerful and a pain to carry around but I need to make sure I do this with being as armed as I can with advice etc. You seem very well versed on Apple products as are many people one here so I look forward to any input advice from all.

First a brief thing. I have the Iphone 4 like I said my HP desktop died so I have been using a laptop and love the freedom over the laptop but I am thinking making the move to the IPad 2 as a main device would be great however, I want to make sure it does what I need first. I handle all my familys appointments (all 3 of us have IPhone 4) plus we use a grocery app that syncs between them and mobile me which I am looking forward to cloud. I also handle all financial matters, legal matters, etc., and was wondering if the IPad 2 could handle that? I use Quicken on my laptop (Toshiba) but use Mint App on the IPhone 4 that also syncs with my bank and the other IPhones here. What is everyones input on a IPad 2 playing a main role like that? I am expecting to maybe having to spend money on addons for things like a keyboard etc to help. I also heard that you cant attach files docs to emails. Is that true? Sometimes I do need to send PDFs Word Docs etc., is that fixed in iOS5 or another way to do that? Does anyone know of a way to compose a fax and send to to a fax machine from the IPad 2 or the IPhone 4? Sorry for all the questions but the IPhone 4 is our first Apple I device and we are hooked.
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amjustice

Anyone with access to a dev account want to add my devices? I would be happy to donate a few bucks via Paypal for the gesture. Hit me up amjustice at yahoo dotcom
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italiano40

That is against the NDA for developers
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kyerussell

Yeah, it doesn't sound like it's worth breaking the NDA over.
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amjustice

From what I have read they don't check and nobody has issues with it but if you guys don't want to that's cool. I just wanted to check out the betas but wasn't willing to pay $100 for it
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italiano40

The beta is for developers only not everyone, everyone should respect the NDA otherwise don't use the beta
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amjustice

Seriously it's no big deal, I had access to iOS4 on my 3GS but have a 4 now. I don't want to get anyone in trouble just putting it out there
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kyerussell

If you want to break Apple's rules feel free to do that. i'm sure there's ways to hacktivate IOS 5 without a developer account if you looked hard enough.
The reality is that Apple only provides a developer preview so developers can make sure their apps are ready before they release it to the public, and they attempt to keep it this way by NDAing all developers, as well as adding a clause to their developer contract that states that giving away/selling preview access is a breach of said contract, which'll result in immediate termination.
Last time I checked developers develop things, and they rely on their developer accounts. Nobody in their right mind would risk losing their developer account just because somebody else wants to see iOS before it's released.
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amjustice

Yeah I am not going to hack it in, if I am going to do it I want to be able to update it along the way and at least be semi legit.
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