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July 22nd 2013 4:43 pm

Canonical's Ubuntu Edge.

Looks like the first phone with Ubuntu OS (and Android!) is coming through a sort-of kickstarter campaign.



www.indiegogo.com­/projects­/ubuntu­-edge

This phone has 4gb of ram and 128gb of storage. It will be able to run a full desktop Ubuntu OS as well as the mobile Ubuntu and Android.

Although it looks impressive, it is largely untested technology, made by a company with no experience in phones. Also I worry about battery life when they give that much power.

What do you all think about it?

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frankspin

32MM in 30 days is a lot of money. I also can't see Canonical getting this right and hitting it's delivery date.
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TgD

Agreed. Its gonna be tough. At $800 a phone, its about 40000 phones. For its size though, its one very portable computer.
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frankspin

I think what makes this a bit hard to swallow is you're putting out $800 for a device that isn't coming out for at least 1 year. It'd be different if models were in production phases already, but $800 is a bit much. I mean, people who pre-ordered Duke Nukem Forever were upset and that was only $40.
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joelhamill

I don't think that's fair because Duke Nukem Forever was released after 15 years of development. Here you will know in 30 days if you're going to pay $800 for the phone. Now, waiting for it is another story but, I don't think this will become vaporware if they meet their goal. Of course, I don't have my crystal ball handy. :-)
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frankspin

"Here you will know in 30 days if you're going to pay $800 for the phone"

I would agree with that statement if a working model was in production already and you donating the money ensured that more phones would be made. However, with estimated delivery being for May 2014, I am going to suspect that they haven't really fully made a production model yet. Considering the difficulty that Pebble has had in rolling out a watch that is far less capable than this phone, I'm extremely skeptical in a May 2014 target date.
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Met

No, you're not donating to ensure more phones are made. This phone is supposed to be the Nexus equivalent for Ubuntu. If they don't meet their target, they won't have a Nexus equivalent device and will stick with whatever the OEMs offer.

Yes, Pebble does a lot less, but keep in mind the difference in company size and how much of the software is already done given that desktop Ubuntu and Ubuntu on Android are working products.
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joelhamill

I would like to think that a semi major company who is working with established producers would be able to meet their goal better than a start up with no experience but, I agree that the actual product is the great unknown.
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drkokandy

That's why I put in on the first day. The idea of those kind of specs in that kind of body is mouthwatering.
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iMario

If they are indeed working with phone manufacturers that might be possible, but the problem is whether those companies will be really willing to help them as much as they can. But I guess one can outsource everything today.
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joelhamill

I assumed they were working with the Foxconn's of the world rather than the HTC's. Perhaps help in getting parts from Qualcomm (LTE radio), Samsung (memory), and Sharp (dispaly) at a decent price and manufacturing at a reasonable scale.
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joelhamill

They're almost at 10% with 30 days left. I don't know how good or bad Canonical is in meeting target dates but, I hope they can pull it off.
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drkokandy

Over 21% has been collected in only 6 days. We've already seen them toss out some new deals during this first week to increase the rate. This thing could lose steam at any time, but I'm shocked they raised this much this fast.
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joelhamill

The use of indegogo is perfect for this type of device. The product launch video says it all, this is a special limited run, similar to the Nexus line from Google, to show carriers around the world that there is a demand for this type of device. If Canonical can meet it's goal then it doesn't have to pony up the $32 million for a first product run to hand off to carriers to market or not market (see Nokia in the US). I hope that it is successful. I was interested in the phone just watching the video and I'm not looking for a new phone at this time.

They've $3 million for the $32 million they're looking for. I wonder if the $600 option is going to discourage people who missed the launch from backing the campaign. I was a little dispirited to see that I missed that option and I wasn't playing on funding in the first place.

Hopefully, they succeed and another option hits the market.
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TgD

You know, I agree that indiegogo may be the best way to fund a device like this, or see if there is any interest.

Extending this thought, what if other phones used the crowdfunding model before production, such that manufacturers may make a better phone?

Lets pretend the Moto X went this route. Spec nerds are not happy about the lack of 1080p screen. They see the 720p screen and choose to not fund it, and the crowdfunding campaign falls through. They then would maybe re-iterate the design with the concerns of the people, and reintroduce it with a 1080p screen. The phone then gets funded, and Motorola may get a phone that sells better.

It also would work to stop production on phones that nobody wants. (and as much as it hurts me to make this joke...)

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joelhamill

The major issue that I can see with this type of project is the conclusions that a company will make after an unsuccessful project. What if Moto thought that it was the phone itself that was not successful rather than just the screen?

I do hope more companies use this type of project to experiment with form factors and new software.
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