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dave

September 10th 2013 11:56 am

Discuss the Apple iPhone 5S keynote right here!



Places, people! The Apple keynote is almost here. Let's discuss the new announcements as they happen.

Follow along on Engadget's live blog, right here (all photos I post here are courtesy of Engadget): www.engadget.com­/2013­/09­/10­/apple­-iphone­-liveblog­-...

Also, check out our discussion yesterday on what readers think that Apple needs to get right for the new iPhone: gdgt.com­/discuss­/what­-does­-apple­-need­-to­-do­-tomorr...

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dave



iPhone 5S with a 64-bit A7 chip!
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dave

(Does this mean we'll put 32GB of RAM in our phones soon?)
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AdamWillis

I'd be happy to pay $100 more for 32GB of RAM over the 16GB version but this Flash memory price is just theft. I really want the 64GB but I'm debating saving $100 for the 32GB.
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Lorenz67

You're confusing RAM and storage. But your feelings on the storage prices are spot on.
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Lorenz67

Define soon? ;-) And even when we do it'll remain useless to this phone (and the next few no doubt)
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frankspin

I know this is just a spec bump but I'm genuinely intrigued by the 5S.
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dave



Whoa, neat! iWork is free on all new iOS devices in addition to iMovie and iPhoto. Damn. I payed a lot of money for those...
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LonelyBob

According to Tim Cook's message, this is Only for new purchased devices however, current iOS device owners will still need to purchase the apps in order to get them.
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AdamWillis

When do you think these will change prices on the store?
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dave



The 64-bit chip will allow for some pretty advanced games. I can't wait to see what the actual on-chip graphics chip is. Also, put this in an Apple TV... please, Tim Cook? :)
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cjtylr

Definitely think the new architecture is a boon for the platform. Allows it to start to grow into the 64-bit app space early.
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dave

The iPhone 5S has a f/2.2 aperture (compared to f/2.4 on the iPhone 5) and a 15% larger sensor area.
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LonelyBob

Any more details on the camera Dave? From the Keynote they said, "5S has new f/2.2 aperture, 15 percent larger active sensor area, bigger pixels for a better picture
Read more: techland.time.com­/2013­/09­/09­/apple­-media­-event­-sep..."
Does 15% larger sensor mean it's technical a 9.2 megapixel camera or something else?
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AdamWillis

Because you mentioned it, gdgt.com­/discuss­/phone­-camera­-specs­-1jo6/
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dave



Fingerprint scanning is confirmed. You can use it to unlock App Store authentications.
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cjtylr

Really excited about this. Can't wait to see how the integrate it with payments at some point.
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Lorenz67

I'm excited about the potential but I feel like this has a very good chance to repeat Siri, in so far as the tech has huge upside but is further away from making a real impact than Apple wants us to believe. In this case the security issues, ranging from leaving your 'password' all over the place and subject to dummying to the meddling from the NSA.
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dave



Everyone hanging out in the lobby. About 20 minutes to go time!
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dave



After some initial updates about the iTunes festival and new stores, they're diving into iOS 7 and showing off a lot of what we already know: home screen, parallax, command center, notification center, etc.

But what we really want? RELEASE DATES. Come onnnnn, Apple!

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kris

Since I just got my hands on an iPad, this is probably the bit of news that's most important to me. I got tired of iOS a few years back, and 7 could be the thing that gets me back into it.

In related news, I spent a few minutes trying to put some icons at the bottom of the screen before I realized I couldn't. Android does have its benefits.
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frankspin

Well you technically can but i think i know what you mean
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dave

BOOM! Free download on September 18th.
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dave





iPhone 5C.

Add it to your gdgt want list today: gdgt.com­/apple­/iphone­/5c/
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dave



16GB: $99
32 GB: $199

(Both on a 2-year contract)
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frankspin

That is a damn killer price. I wonder what unlocked pricing is.
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TgD

Starting at $549. Too rich for my blood
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Lorenz67

How is last years phone sold for the same price last years phone has always been sold for 'killer' exactly?
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LonelyBob

@Lorenz67 yep exactly, the people who are saying the 5c is a great price have very short term memory or just haven't done their research. It might be cheaper in materials for Apple to manufacture (maybe), but if it is that savings isn't being passed on to the consumer.
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day4bananafish

I kind of want the 5c more than the 5s. I know it's just an iPhone 5 but, it feels a lot fresher to me.
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salimhayek

Creative/Innovational bankruptcy. It's unfortunate. I for one am waiting to install iOS 7, in hopes it will alter the half-decade old iOS experience.
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chimtim

i believe this update is the most non-incremental iphone update. Both ios and iphone have changes that samsung and the android ecosystem cannot copy in a short amount of time. As an example, the 64 bit changes, which is fundamentally hard in the android ecosystem model. The fingerprint and motion sensor are guarded by patents and require significant re-engineering. ios7 also has some breath taking animations that require this kind of hardware.
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Lorenz67

In short, no. This is the most underwhelming update yet, which is saying something since last year offered nothing beyond a ever so slightly larger screen in a world full of much larger (and sharper) screens.

In long, no. The 64 bit 'change' is borderline useless since the primary advantage of 64 bit relates to floating point data which very few apps will utilize to meaningful effect prior to the next iteration (and realistically 2 or 3 down the road). The fingerprint sensor has high upside but comes with a laundry list of conditions and caveats limiting it to Siri status as good marketing, sketchy product.

As for "significant re-engineering' my ASUS laptop from 2008 had fingerprint scanners licensed from Authentec technology so until I see very compelling evidence (from reliable foreign 3rd parties) that this info is not secured from either hackers or the NSA and as such is worth very little to me.
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frankspin

I too had a laptop with a fingerprint reader but the way Apple is going about using it is a little better than one I ever used on a laptop.
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chimtim

This reasoning is bizzare. Airports have had finger scanner since 90s but that does not mean anything. Apple acquired AuthenTec, filed a patent for hoembtton + scanner.

64 bit enables many enhancements like their own phone. the motion sensor makes it as powerful as fitbit etc w/o being a drain on battery. I would say its the most advanced S update that I have seen (compared to 4S and 3GS).
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rcereghino

New phones? Ho hum. Yes, faster, 64 bit, etc. but my 4s is more than enough, no compelling hardware coolness. I really think that iOS 7 will make more of a difference and make iPhone fresh again. Not to sound negative but it was a boring announcement. Too many leaks and no "one more thing". Finger print recognition nice but whenever payments come to Latin America this will be useful to me. Faster processor? Only see a benefit for games. Camera? Nice but not enough. This update pattern ( 5 then 5s) are getting kind of stale. Market share is more important than margin, business 101.
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