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Discuss the WWDC keynote and announcements here!

This is the spot to discuss the WWDC 2011 keynote and the introductions of iOS 5, OS X Lion, iCloud, and whatever else Steve has planned!

Oh, and here's the stuff to add to your gdgt lists:
iOS 5: gdgt.com­/apple­/ios­/5/
Lion: gdgt.com­/apple­/mac­-os­-x­/lion/

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ryan

IOS 5 will be PC free! Delta (i.e. only what's changed) over the air updates. No PC required to get going with any iOS device. Amazing stuff.

iTunes? Good riddance.
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KnoaWyls

Although I am apparently the only person who actually likes iTunes. I'm just happy not having to sync through it.
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albooher

Ryan, as slow and bloated as iTunes is, I unfortunately still have to say I doubt it's going anywhere. As appealing as these delta updates sound I've been stuck with an iPhone in need of a complete restore more than once or twice. I have this fear that these patchwork updates will lead to Apps (and the OS) gettings slow and buggy and needing a 'fresh' start every so often.
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beau

You know what's really going to suck now? Wireless bandwidth caps.
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MtnSloth

LOL. True! Also, I can't imagine that the telcos are gonna be happy about iMessenger (did I get that name right?)
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beau

Interesting that while WebOS and Windows Phone try integrate closest with Facebook, iOS prefers deep integration with Twitter.
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KnoaWyls

A genius move I think.
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albooher

I think Apple probably opted for Twitter over FB because of the simplicity of Twitter, FB is a whole ecosystem while Twitter is really only about sharing short bits of information right now.
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MtnSloth

I think ecosystem is the key word here. Apple is all about controlling their ecosystem. Twitter is complimentary; Facebook not so much. Also, while it is probably reading too much into the situation, Facebook chose to align itself with Microsoft; that may have pushed Apple in the direction of someone else.
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nesscar

Does anybody think there's any validity to that screen shot from TechCrunch with the new notification system with the Twitter thing at the top. That would be awesome.
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foxyNinja

I'm hoping that this is implemented. Notifications are the sole reason I switched away from iOS. And I am also a huge fan of Twitter. It'd be a double win for me.
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ryan

iOS 5 is looking great. Notifications Center, Twitter integration, and Newsstand announced so far.
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ryan

Interesting that Apple baked deep Twitter support into iOS 5, but not the far more popular Facebook. Not that I'm complaining!
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ryan

Oh snap, the new camera stuff looks amazing. Lock screen camera shortcut, volume button can now be used as shutter, and in-device photo editing. This is great stuff.
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KnoaWyls

Newsstand is a nice feature as well. There definitely needed to be some organization between all the subscriptions.
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MtnSloth

Wonder what this means for Zinio? I can't imagine that it is going to be a good thing.
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beau

Good god this is a massive update to iOS.
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KnoaWyls

Agreed. I'm very excited!
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Biiaru

Are you doing a liveblog?
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peter

No, we're not a blog and so aren't going to be liveblogging anything.
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EBone

That's too bad. Your live coverage was always better than everyone else's.
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spyyddir

Agreed, gdgt's live coverage was always ahead of its competition. Sad to see it not happening anymore.
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andru

You guys have done a bunch of live-blogs here on gdgt, and they've usually been the best out there!
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peter

We did, but in retrospect it was a mistake since it really confused people about what we were trying to do with the site. We've worked hard to make things a lot clearer with gdgt 2.0, and the good news is that it seems to be working.
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Falcon

This forum is providing a new type of liveblog experience. While I'll miss yours and Ryan's liveblogging on gdgt, this type of communication is pretty novel.
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Dre

Really liked your liveblogs of these events but I understand your stance.
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peter

Thanks, fortunately there is no lack of sites liveblogging today.
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gsnitsuj

Sad, it was the best live coverage for WWDC 2009 and 2010. Will really miss it!
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KnoaWyls

Man I hope they really come with it on the iCloud!
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groovechicken

Are we all using Engadget for this, or has anyone found a better liveblog?
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dave

I'm using Engadget. They're usually the best around at this stuff.
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douglasgottlieb

I'm using both live.thisismynext.com­/Event­/Live­_from­_WWDC­_2011 and www.macrumorslive.com/ Both are pretty snappy
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beau

This livestream works

www.ustream.tv­/channel­/omtwwdckeynote
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beau

now dead.
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dave

I'll admit. I'm not really sold on multi-touch gestures for shortcuts just yet. I can barely keep track of the thousands of different keyboard short cuts I need for different apps.
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baileylo

Agree 100%
I can't stand the gesture on the mighty mouse for game play. I"m trying to keep a static distance 3rd person shooters but I keep zooming in and out. Not very functional.
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beau

Watching the livestream it looks slick though.
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ryan

Lion Mail is looking amazing, I can't wait. I've been running Apple Mail for years (more recently in three vertical pane with a plugin), and this update addresses many of my complaints with it, like sucky search and a cramped, unorganized view. Stoked!
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dave

4GB download, only in the Mac App store, $29 and no reboot?! What?? Crazy!
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baileylo

Yet this "Snow Leopard Font Update" requires a reboot.
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groovechicken

Yeah, and apparently no way for businesses to download and update multiple machines without killing their bandwidth. It's all as I predicted in that other thread about this topic.
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MtnSloth

Yeah. This is not going to play well with any business larger than a Mom & Pop. Apple must have another idea that hasn't been announced yet. Hmmm. Wonder if this is intended to push that relationship with the business specialists at the local Apple Store?
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dave

Available in July.
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beau

All night download.
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beau

Tap the volume button to take a photo? We were told that was wrong wrong wrong for so long.
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groovechicken

Yeah and they pulled apps from the store for it too. I guess the rules don't apply to them, though. Business as usual.
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albooher

We weren't told that was wrong, Tap Tap Tap was just told they couldn't include it in Camera+ as an easter egg and in doing so violate the Dev agreement they agreed to when signing up to publish an App through the App Store.
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jefflundberg

What would be nice is automatic podcast updating…
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albooher

I was thinking the same thing...
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RohitK

Heh. BBM is over.

That, I think, was the biggest news of the night. While iCloud and its features have a lotta utility for a lotta people, the BBM competition is what's really going to get more people to jump the fence. I know a *LOT* of people who really like the iPhone but can't bear to leave BBM.
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