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peter

Got invited to check out the beta of the Sonos Android app, and was about to install it on the Atrix 4G when I was forced to confront the fact that AT&T has…

blocked installation of non-Market apps. It's total nonsense that shows contempt for users (I don't like that Apple does this either) and kind of defeats one of the great things about Android (namely that it's slightly more open than some of the alternatives).

I also can't install Swype on the Atrix 4G, which is a real shame since the preinstalled keyboard is so sucky.

Anyway, going to install the Sonos app on the Nexus S and Galaxy Tab right now.

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Brandon

From what I hear, this is what you need.
www.androidcentral.com­/sideload­-android­-apps­-all­-y...
you can allegedly load non-market apps without rooting.

I agree though that this AT&T habit of taking the option away from the user is unacceptable.
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radikal

ok haha, this guy found what i was talking about, my bad.
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peter

I did this and was able to successfully install Swype without difficulty, but I have a feeling it'd be a little intimidating for the average Android user.

Thanks!
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Brandon

For sure. An average user would never put this much effort into side loading. But I guess average users probably wouldn't even realize where to look outside of the Android Market app to start with.

Any way you look at it though, you said it right the first time Peter: it shows their contempt for their users
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radikal

Yes it is, like samsung updating through kies, only advanced users likely will
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mrduane

Swype is pre-installed on mine, but for some reason, it's not in the list of apps. It showed up under 'Input options' in a pop-up I got when trying to copy & paste (by holding my finger down over some text i had typed) while composing an email. Strangely, I don't get that pop-up when doing the same while writing a text message.
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krisguy

It's Moto's implemenation of Swype. It's goofy, but it's there.
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sledlow

Good to know this exists. Sometimes I feel a bit immune to all of this because while I am on AT&T, my rooted Nexus One is such an amazing experience of open-ness and freedom to do what I want with my hardware I forget that companies like AT&T and some phone manufacturers are making Android less than it was intended.
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dvdvija

Hi, I'm a newbie to android things. Please explain what is "sideloading" is? What is the purpose of it? Please explain to a non tech person.
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peter

Generally speaking, "sideloading" means installing an app on a mobile device by first downloading it to your PC and then transferring it over via USB.

In this specific case, AT&T disables installation of apps that don't come through the official Android Market. There's a way to get around that by using a Windows app to sideload an app onto the phone.
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dvdvija

Thanks for quick respond. Understanding some more now. How do I know what app requires side loading??
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peter

It really only applies if you have an Android phone from AT&T and you try and install an app that you did not get from the Android Market.
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mrduane

According to this post on lifehacker: lifehac.kr­/eQkHIs, it's possible to sideload by simply removing the SIM card. Haven't tried yet, but seems almost too simple. If that works, I wonder if simply putting the phone into airplane mode will get the job done too.
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Scape3d

AT&T is terrible. No issues with this type of thing on Sprint.

- Sent from my Evo, using Swype
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radikal

no at&t is the only one that does this, however, the captivate had the best battery life of all the galaxy s series, not sure if this is why or not
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radikal

i got invited, don't have a sonos box yet.

there is a side loader work around i heard, a computer app that can allow it, i forget what it is called!
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Dpmt

I hope AT&T bleeds into 4th place due iPhone defections and those not being replaced by new Android growth. The way they lock down Android is intolerable.
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radikal

it is, THE MOST POWERFUL ANDROID SMARTPHONE, and it is locked down as it gets
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Scottish

Hey Peter, according to GigaOM ( gigaom.com­/mobile­/motorola­-atrix­-4g­-and­-laptop­-doc... ), Swype is already preinstalled on the Atrix. Did it not come preinstalled on the unit you received?
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peter

My unit definitely did not have it. One of the first things I checked.
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Scottish

Interesting. Thanks for the quick reply. I suppose if the final release of the phone doesn't have it, I don't mind too much using the Sideload Wonder Machine.
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mrduane

Posted to the wrong thread at first - Swype is pre-installed on mine, but for some reason, it's not in the list of apps. It showed up under 'Input options' in a pop-up I got when trying to copy & paste (by holding my finger down over some text i had typed) while composing an email. Strangely, I don't get that pop-up when doing the same while writing a text message.
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