Is the Surface Pro worth over $1,000?
Microsoft has announced pricing for the upcoming Surface with Windows 8 Pro, which is expected to ship in January (blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_blog/archive/2012/11...). The new tablet will sell for $899 with a 64GB SSD, and $999 with 128GB. A keyboard, such as Microsoft's Touch model, will cost extra. How does this compare to other Windows 8 tablets? Lenovo's IdeaPad Yoga, with its flip-over 13-inch display, starts at $999, including a 128GB SSD. Dell's XPS 12, which boasts a rotating display, starts at $1,199, also with a 128GB SSD. Both models include non-removable keyboards, and weigh more than 3 pounds, while the keyboardless Surface Pro weighs in at less than 2 pounds (it also has a smaller display, at just 10 inches). Put another way, the 64GB Surface Pro is about $200 more than a comparable iPad with (or without) a Bluetooth keyboard.
Is the Surface Pro worth its price, or are you better off with something like the Yoga, which has more storage, a larger display, and a built-in keyboard for the same price as the lower capacity Surface once you add an external keyboard? Or are you better off sticking with a traditional tablet? It depends on your needs -- and what the Surface Pro is actually like once it comes out. A tablet that runs a full version of Windows and weighs under two pounds could be a very tempting alternative to a traditional mobile-OS tablet or larger laptop. And if you're the kind of person who travels with both a tablet and a laptop because you want the portability of a tablet but need the flexibility of a desktop OS, the Surface Pro could well be worth its price.
What do you think?
The extra premium in opinion because you are getting a fully functional machine. This being a tablet, laptop and a desktop PC! How cool would it to just place your Surface Pro into a dock hooked up to a monitor. Come lunch time, take it out the doc and go to a cafe for a bite to eat, reply to a few emails or fix a few bugs in the latest code you have written! Once your belly is full, walk back to the office, place your device back into the dock and you are back in desktop mode!
To me, that's the perfect device and that's why Microsoft are charging a slightly higher price.
I'm impressed that the 64GB model was priced at $899. I was expecting it to start at $999.
If the covers are still $119 (touch) and $129 (type), a 64GB Surface Pro is only $20-$30 more than a 64GB MacBook Air. [I think this is a better comparison than with an iPad (this is the full version of Windows 8 Pro vs OSX Mountain Lion, both have i5 processors)] For that extra $20-30, you get an interesting stylus, touch input, and unlike the Air or the Yoga you mention, a detachable keyboard. so you could put it away to use it as a tablet. While iOS is finding a place in the enterprise in a way that OSX hasn't , W8Pro features some killer enterprise features that a number of companies could make use of, and allows other companies to use legacy custom-built software.
It can be a laptop when you need a laptop, and it can be a tablet when you need a tablet, and I think it does it more successfully than the Yoga (reviewers have complained about feeling the keys when using it as a tablet), other slates where you carry the heft of the keyboard/case wherever you go, or the kludgy iPad keyboard contraptions available. It uses standard Windows software. It has USB 3.0 and MicroSDXC slots for expansion (so I would expect the 128GB version would be excessive.
I like that Microsoft is un-bundling the cover. It might sound stupid, but honestly one of the reasons I did not buy a Surface RT is because I wanted the 64GB model, but I would have preferred to buy the 64GB RT for $599 and pay $120 for the cover in the color I wanted rather than $699 for that model with a black touch cover.
My big concern is battery life. If the Surface Pro can't last at least as long as the MacBook Air, I won't even think about it. I might have to go with one of the Intel Clover Trail Windows 8 (non-Pro) tablets instead.
If I was to buy one I would be installing Visual Studio 2012, Office 2013 etc on it and I would be using it as a portable development machine. So I would need a decent sized hard drive, most likely 128Gb version as I think 64Gb would be a little on the small side. But it's awesome as I can also use it as a tablet with the touch interface, reply to emails or just sit back and watch a movie!
Really excited about this product... I just hope I can save up enough £££ to buy one! Otherwise, I may have to go for something a little less expensive like the Samsung Series 5 notebook or similar! At the end of the day, my desktop has a gaming card in it so I don't need a dedicated card in my portable machine.
So if people are putting there decision down to battery life I wouldn't. You have to remember it's a full laptop/desktop/tablet machine. This isn't a Nexus 10 for example, it's not running a slower processor that has been designed for mobility. It's running a full experience i5 processor! For that you are getting the full Windows 8 experience. There was going to be a cost for the consumer, and yes, this has resulted in a short battery life but by no means a deal breaker (in my opinion).
The price? Awful. Even the RT version is overpriced. But, I hear that in some communities (mostly high school kids) are envious of this thing, usually due to its price point. That's how Macs have always been until they began targeting gen x.
The Pro version also allows you to use all common applications that you are used to on a day to day laptop or desktop. For this reason I will be able to install Visual Studio, the program I use for development. So I can take my Surface Pro to a coffee shop and do a bit of coding, reply to emails etc. As mentioned above, I wouldn't use this device 8 hours a day using just the 10" screen I would have to connect it to a monitor for long use. But what is great is you have the option to do this and if you just want tablet functionality you have that too.
In short, you have your desktop machine in your back. Remove it from the dock on your desk and take it with you. If you go to another office you can buy a second dock for example (which will be small) and take it with you and then use a monitor that's at another location.
It's for the above reasons why the Surface Pro has been manufactured. You can use one machine for many uses and because it's small it's not going to weigh you down. In essence you have a fully capable machine compared to a lot of desktop machines available today at 10% of the size!
Granted if you need a dedicated graphics card for heavy design, you will not find this on the Surface, nor would you find it on most ultrabooks available on the market today. But saying that you need a very large monitor and for that reason the Surface wouldn't cut it, you are wrong! It is versatile, you can connect it to a monitor, you can use it as a notebook or a tablet when sitting on a train.
Microsoft has most definitely not missed it, in fact they have gotten it spot on. It's certain consumers that have missed it - not understood the reasons behind the Surface Pro nor how to utilise it to it's full potential.
When you see a small screen, don't instantly think iPad, it's much more. Within that small exterior you have a fully fledged desktop machine at your finger tips.
I can't even accept buying a mackbook air at that price, I get that it has tablet/full pc functionality but it's lacking in "business oomph" comparison to recent ultrabooks, not to mention poor battery life.
Plus the cover is nearly the same price as ASUS' Transformer optional keyboard, it can justify its price; the touch cover, no so much.
Microsoft is going it at all wrong in regards to this push for the Surface and trying to charge a premium price for it. Who do you think will actually buy this thing? And having it only sold at a Microsoft Store?? Come on...
Beyond price, two issues I hear from non techy people are one, they do not like the windows 8 interface and two, everything in the Microsoft worlds is always painfully slow and that is not the the case for the A&A world (Android and Apple). Does anyone remember the epic freeze at Microsoft's launch in September? The non techy YouTube fans seem to remember it well.
Windows entering the space with bad blood against them and priced out of the park leaves me questioning their intentions..
Freeze at launch? Really... the fact that you would bring up youtube comments on a forum like this only strengthens my comment. You have no clue what you're talking about and should probably sit down, shut up and think long and hard before speaking/typing.
$899 tablet will start up with only 23GB of usable space, while its $999 128GB big brother will actually have 83GB available.
And I believe thats not including the keyboard/cover which is like another $99.00.
So... if thats a good deal....You go for it....cause at that price..heck...I'd rather get an ultrabook with way better specs or even go Mac....
It's a no brainer..
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