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dave

June 2nd 2014 12:47 pm

Let's talk about the WWDC keynote right here!



Apple's kicks off WWDC 2014 with their keynote which starts in about 15 minutes. For many, it's like a nerd Christmas. (For others, it's annoying and obnoxious.) Regardless, there's bound to be a lot of interesting news. Let's talk about it right here!

Who's ready? I know I am!

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dave

I feel like we're at the point where there's basically no need to jailbreak your iOS devices anymore. For me personally, at least, I can't think of a single thing I need anymore that's available in Cydia. It's pretty crazy to see Apple loosen their collars a bit.

(I'm sure there's stuff I'm not thinking of though right now?)
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Dignan17

So as you can imagine, I'm less than impressed with Apple's entry into the home automation market. At the very least, they're helping tie together the proprietary products that are coming out these days (Hue, Nest, August). But if it only works on iOS devices, what's the point? Plus, for many of these products you need their own controllers to be installed and set up, creating more clutter and complexity. I just don't get it.

I also think there's an issue if you try to decentralize the stuff they're talking about. I'm hearing "It'll be great, you can tell Siri 'I'm going to bed now'" and it'll turn the lights off and lock the doors. That's great, but something has to tie those actions together, and does that something only live on your phone or iCloud account? Can you share it with other iOS users in your home? Can your scenes and such be coordinated with the other people in your household?

I often feel like modern home automation is directed entirely at single San Francisco condo dwellers who don't have to consider other people in their lives. This feels just like that.
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frankspin

I often feel like modern home automation is directed entirely at single San Francisco condo dwellers who don't have to consider other people in their lives. This feels just like that.

Welcome to the Silicon Valley silo
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josedelcorral

So the question here is:

Should I install Yosemite or should I wait (at least until tomorrow)
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dave

I kind of really really want to install it on my Mac mini at home, but eh. I'm not going to be running the iOS 8 beta, so a lot of this handoff functionality that I'm really interested in isn't going to be useful for me. So, other than having an updated UI (with translucent title bars!!!!1!) there really isn't much I want to check out right now.

Maybe widgets? But I can't imagine a lot of apps will support that until OS X is released.

(And obviously this is a beta, but I've been hearing major issues that things like Chrome do not work in the initial beta release.)
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dave

This image is always handy:



Another (awesome) thing they're cribbing from Android: Battery usage by app!!!
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frankspin

This iOS8 api stuff is making me so excited.

Camera API
Proper sharing intents
Healthkit
Homekit
TouchID
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TgD

Proper sharing intents? MAKE IT SO.
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frankspin

It's a little odd how it looks, but they're letting people now build apps into that field. I just hope it doesn't get as sloppy as Android can get.
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dave

iCloud photos! Please oh please I hope they revamp how Photostream works. Right now it's 1,000 photos or last 30 days

How many photos will be be able to store in the cloud and how much will it cost?
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dave

200GB for $4 / month. Doesn't seem too bad. Need to do some further digging.
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frankspin

iOS Quicktype is much needed, I've been missing Swiftkey a lot.
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frankspin

Oh wow, this Handoff stuff is seriously impressive. SMS, Phone calls, documents, etc is super convenient and neat.
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dave

Yeah, pretty neat! I've definitely had an issue with this going back and forth between my computer and phone and working on different stuff. This sort of stuff is really powerful -- I've always wondered why they haven't done that yet.
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frankspin

I guess this means I might have to try Mail.app. But I love my alfred workflows :(
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dave

By the way, Alfred just posted an update on their blog:
blog.alfredapp.com­/2014­/06­/02­/alfred­-and­-os­-x­-10­-1...
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flackend

Alfred is one of my favorite OS X apps. So awesome!
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dave

Safari. ZzzzZZZzzz...

Does anyone really use Safari on the desktop as their primary browser?

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josedelcorral

I only use safari to watch Apple Keynotes...
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flackend

I love the smoothness and speed I get in Safari (the couple of times I've used it). But Chrome's Omnibox is too good. And Chrome's Dev Tools...
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frankspin

This is showing just how much Apple is trying to keep people within their own products, and it's pretty smart.

I just hope this means iCloud storage gets way cheaper.
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dave

Whoa! iCloud storage is apparently one of the cheapest options around right now!



Via: https:­/­/twitter.com­/kfury­/status­/47356456988169830...
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Dignan17

I'm confused. $2 for 100GB is the same as $4 for 200GB. What are their other prices? Because GDrive is $10/month for 1TB.

Still, it's something they had to do. Before today, iCloud was easily one of the most expensive cloud storage services.
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dave

You're correct!

I cannot math.
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Dignan17

No worries! But I really am curious what their other prices are. I wasn't able to tune in for the keynote so I'm catching up. All I was able to find were articles that talked about storage up to ~400-500GB for iCloud, and Apple's own site seems to only mention their old prices...
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frankspin

They only gave a few prices, but are offering tiers up to 1TB.
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frankspin

This is really interesting but I need to see how it speed wise, as well as integration with other platforms before jumping into it.
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dave

The third party widgets are kind of interesting. I wonder if this is FORESHADOWING WIDGETS IN iOS??! ;)

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frankspin

I really really hate Today view, it's so gimped on iOS! How do you only show me 2 hours and not let me see more!
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dave

I do like this new design for OS X Yosemite. But it's interesting that they talk about window translucency -- it's something Windows 7 has had for quite awhile with Aero.
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dave

They are really spending a lot of time talking about translucency. I mean, sure, it looks nice. But come on, people!
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dave

LOLs.

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frankspin

iVape
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flackend

I wonder if they'll ever redesign the MacBook. I'd like that. Maybe to reclaim sales from Lenovo :)

www.engadget.com­/2014­/05­/21­/lenovo­-earnings­-pc­-sal...
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dave

Hah, I wonder how much more they can redesign it, other than getting much thinner! I have to agree with the predictions that we probably won't see any laptop hardware updates -- there aren't really any new Intel processors in the pipeline until later this year.

We'll see though, I'd love to be wrong. Retina MacBook Airs?!??! ;)
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flackend

Unlikely, but WWDC is where dreams come true!
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josedelcorral

I really miss the "One more thing" stuff :_(
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