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My personal PSPGo set up and, am I in the minority?

I'm very excited about the Go. It comes out the day before my birthday and I told the wife it's all I want. That and GT Mobile. My PS3 already holds everything I want to load onto my Go. I never really had a ton of UMD's because honestly, I hate the format and I'm pretty picky about my games on a hnadheld. So here's what I'll have on mine:

1. GT Mobile
2. Twisted Metal 2
3. RE Director's Cut
4. FFVII
5. Syphon Filter (the first one)
6. Metal Gear Solid

And then some pics of my kid and maybe a movie or two. Can you see the trend here? I'm mostly looking forward to this thing as my mobile PS1 except for GT Mobile. I'm counting the days.

The only other thing I'm interested in is LBP Mobile but it better be available digitally. The prospect of having all these great games with me all the time and never switching discs is just heaven.
I'm crossing my fingers for Xenogears to come to the PSN PS1 classics list. I may never get any work done ever again if that happens. Hello extra batteries!

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coologuy1957

every game released after pspgo launches will be both hard copy and digital. (they will probably go back and slowly digitize all the psp games eventually - or at least the ones that sold well like the 360 does with xbox originals...)

so basically you don't have any psp games..... yes yes i would say you are in the minority that kind of goes without saying most people buy a console to play the games on that console the games you listed are original playstation games that have been digitized and emulated on the PS3/PSP theres nothing wrong with that, i love playstation games, but you have nothing to lose when this new psp comes out all the rest of us could potentially lose our ENTIRE game and movie collection.... not a great strategy when it comes to satisfying your loyal customers.......
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coologuy1957

Does anybody else want to use the PSPgo like this? This guys talking about using it literally as a portable Playstation original, but there are so many great original PSP games. The PSP's visuals and capabilities are much closer to the PS2 than the PS1 anyway... Especially the PSPgo with increased RAM - doubled from 32MB to 64MB and no processor limits - the full 333MHz is available as it is with the original PSP after the firmware update.
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tekdroid

PSP was upgraded from 32MB to 64MB ram since the 2000 series years ago, and that made little if any change to actual gameplay and load speeds (part of the reason was UMD-caching and running Skype, etc).

PSP Go is more of the same, really.
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phathom

If you hack your psp, you can play just about every classic psx game on it. I've done it in the past, even played mame. It was great. I hate how Sony has waited so long to place it's old content onto the psp and psn. The normal psp will be able to do the same as th psp go, minus the bluetooth, and integrated memory.
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coologuy1957

I want all 3 consoles and both portable consoles to really pump up the downloadable content and the classic games. It feels like the engine is running but the wheels are just spinning... I haven't been excited about many downloadable games lately...
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tekdroid

You have always been able to make the current PSP 100% download and you still can (by downloading off the Playstation store and not buying UMDs), so I don't see the big fuss unless you want small size of the PSP Go (and Bluetooth).

* They play the same downloaded games identically.
* Memory sticks are cheap.
* USB cables are cheap.
* you still have the fall-back of playing UMD if you wish (on a game not converted to download, or on an existing game you don't want to re-buy)


Go!Cam is cheap enough (the camera add-on for current PSPs that connects to the USB port). You could do those videos and pictures of the kid on the PSP itself if you wanted to. The PSP Go has no such camera add-on (despite the Go!Cam name, it only works for non-Go PSPs). Sony had this thing with naming everything Go! years before the PSP Go was announced.

Something to think about, anyway.
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tekdroid

Oh I forgot one thing. You said:
"Hello extra batteries!"
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It's too bad they're not removable in the PSP Go. One embedded battery inside. Can't carry a spare when away from an outlet and it craps out on you. I know most don't carrry a spare, but I find it an invaluable thing, really. As the battery gets older and needs constant recharges because its capacity to retain charge is diminished, it's also an easy replacement without busting out the screwdriver and looking for parts online :)
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refractured

I agree with Tekdroid.
The other bit I'd add to this is that UMDs will be
1. cheaper
2. trade/sellable

If money is not an issue, then sure, the PSPgo is pretty slick. But I just see the PSPgo as a way to nickle and dime Playstation fans. The only REAL upgrade to the PSPgo is the form factor. Its completely weak it only has a WIFI "B" radio, and no removable battery.
The PSPgo is a slap in the face.
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aversusb

The battery is not replaceable on the fly...but it is not soldered to the motherboard either....so you can replace it if it dies all together...

But yes you just can't swap batteries and keep on playing.
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coologuy1957

also, it makes me sad but the Gran Turismo game for the PSP just got a poor (for GT standards) review on IGN:

psp.ign.com­/articles­/102­/1024698p1.html
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MonkeyZero

Yep, I've second thought this whole thing. Especially since I just read they've "cancelled" the UMD conversion program. Not that I have a ton of UMD's to convert but it just shows that Sony is putting this thing out for a buck with little thought into actually adding value. I was excited about it considering what I was going to use it for but not really anymore.

As for the post about hacking your PSP and playing classic PSX games on it, I'm not down with that. I'm not down with hacking, pirating, copying, etc. I'll admit to jailbreaking an iPhone but that's a different story. Ripping ROMs is wrong IMO.
Guess I'll get that DSi I've been holding off on.
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aversusb

I am still getting one. I had a PSP-2001 and a couple UMD movies and headphones with Mic that I sold on Ebay for close to $200. so the upgrade is a no brainer for me.

I had a white one on pre-oder at GS and then read on Neogaf about Dell selling them for $212 with free next day shipping. Good enough for me. With Tax it was $230 that is $40 less than retail+tax

1) got to bing
2) search for "dell"
3) within the dell search, search for "PSPGo"
4) put in cart and get discount code from neogaf thread (Google "PSPGO DELL DISCOUNT CODE"
5) check out.
6) get new PSPGo for cheaper than anywhere else!

As for the haters, I understand the hate. Sony is not doing any good will here. BUT isn't it ironic that the same people that were screaming the digital is the future..when put to task...cry about it.
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coologuy1957

theres the "digital is the future" part... and then theres the "screw the early adopters" part.. they really don't have to have both parts... they could help usher the early adopters into the digital age by changing their hard copies into soft copies and not garnering all of this ill will...
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Vaughanabe13

If anyone is reading this, I just tried it (October 2nd) and Dell no longer supports the coupon code. The Bing cashback thing might still work but I am not going to buy it so I can't verify that.
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aversusb

Did Steam allow for a hard copy to digital conversion free of charge for PC gamers?
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MonkeyZero

That's not even comparing apples to apples. Come on.
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Laserwulf

OT, but Steam does allow for hard-copy to digital... of mainly their games. I started using Steam when it first came out, and remember typing in the CD keys of my Half-Life discs. Also, when Unreal Tournament III came out on Steam, I typed in my CD key.
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coologuy1957

ya, see the reason what you said is retarded is that every pc game can be played on any PC. The hard PSP games cannot be played on the PSPgo - ever........ That is the whole reason for what we are talking about. Buying digital games is all well and good - I've bought digital games on the Xbox, PS3, and PSP already... But I'm not abandoning the PSP games I have right now... I love those games and paid for them and I'm not re-buying them digitally... thats pretty ridiculous to expect... so they need to fix that and I need to get my hands on the PSPgo to see if I even like the form factor and the new controls setup....
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aversusb

Well there goes the maturity and respect that attracted me to GDGT. Come on, I asked the Steam question as a 100% non PC gamer. Other than a handful of games of Red Alert in 1993, I use a PC for work.

With that said, I wonder: are you guys upset at 1) Sony saying they would look into a UMD trade and then not doing anything yet or 2) that they are forcing your hand as a consumer with the high price?

If the PSPGo was $179, would the no UMD trade news mean less?
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MonkeyZero

While the "retarded" comment was probably out of line, what coolguy says is what I was inferring by my apples to apples comment. I'm sure he meant no harm. He comes off rough at times but I've noticed over time he's actually quite insightful and adds to the conversation. Lets all play nice. Everyone is entitled to their view.
As for your questions, I'm upset about both the mention of, and then retraction of a trade in program as well as the high price. If the Go was $179 I COULD, however, probably overlook the trade in thing. Unfortunately as it stands we're stuck with a premium AND no trade ins.
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aversusb

That is where my "anger" is in all this. John Kollar came out and said that Sony was looking into a UMD trade program. And then the internet message boards took that and ran with it. Took a comment and made it fact.

What I don't understand is the difference in treatment between SCEE and SCEA customers. How do they get 3 games free with an upgrade to the PSPGo and they [Sony] can't do the same thing here in the States? If anything, that should piss consumers off.
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MonkeyZero

While I totally agree that bonuses or whatever should be equal across the board internationally speaking, if you consider the dollars to euros conversion, europe has paid way more for consoles and games in the long run and probably deserve a perk at this point. Why Sony prices things "equally" here and there, as does Nintendo and Microsoft, I'll never understand. $249 and 249 euros aren't anywhere near equal. Maybe we're not getting such a bad break afterall.
Nah, screw that. I still want $179. Lol
Also, have you seen the list of games they're picking from? Socom 1. Seriously? Its not that great of a perk.
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coologuy1957

I didn't mean retarded to be offensive to you and I did think twice about putting it. I apologize for coming across that way. I simply meant that you can do way more with a computer gaming-wise than the PSPgo which will only use digital downloaded games now and forever.

About your pricing question, I stated long ago I wouldn't pay a dime above what I already paid for my UMD games to have them work on the PSPgo... I now see this was a bit harsh and I would maybe pay a $1 or so, but I don't like that sony is basically punishing me for buying their old system and old games. Sony has always been about bringing your old games along with you - like with the PS1 games on PS2 and so on... If Sony said the PSPgo was a next generation handheld and wouldn't work with older games, that is one thing and I would be fine with that... They didn't say that though - they said this system is the PSP with a focus on mobility that will play the same games and the old system will have those games launched in hard form at the same time. So I must choose to stick with the old and keep my stuff, or abandon all my equipment and games and go new... thats fine... with that choice, I choose stick with what I have.... I just wish they had made it easier for those of us who love the PSP to get the new one...
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coologuy1957

When you mentioned Steam I just assumed you were a PC gamer since that is the most used downloadable game service for PC gamers... I don't think it was a big stretch of me to assume you were a PC gamer, but I only meant that PCs inherently have the ability to play hard and soft copies, whereas sony has stripped that functionality from the PSPgo.... (all previous PSPs have the ability to play soft and hard copies still....) So basically the PSPgo loses some functionality but gains portability and onboard storage... for $50 more.... I'm not saying thats good or bad... its just a choice (and one sony made near impossible for people with large UMD collections and lots of PSP accessories - in the engagdet review they clearly stated that NO PREVIOUS PSP ACCESSORIES would still work on the PSPgo)
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aversusb

I understand 100% why the price is a huge roadblock here for some. On the other hand, if people are going to be first adopters, they have a "tax" to pay. We did it with the OG PSP 5 years ago.

I hope that SCEA has some Federal commission statement about digital copyright that they just didn't want to confuse the consumer with legalese that handcuffed them from doing ANYTHING about a trade-in/converting program for UMD to digital. Because if it was just laziness...

Well I know it doesn't play out dollar for dollar but i actually sold my PSP-2001 with all the accessories and a few movies for $200. Got the Dell/Bing deal(15% bing cash back and 15% off Dell coupon with free next day shipping)...so my PSPGo came in right under $200. So this was a wash for me.

Now what to do with the few UMD's I have left over?
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coologuy1957

From the articles I have read, Sony had a fully functioning kiosk based system that would digitize the games and it was already working. I think it just was not financially feasible or they just hate me and MonkeyZero!!! LOL
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aversusb

They hate me too. Not just as bad! I am (was) a play n' trade type guy. I am not a case collector. So digital works just fine for me. And with a travel, the smaller the form factor the better.

I went ahead and bought a $20 USB (out) battery charger from Duracell that is about the size of a Tic-tac box. It is touted to give a 2 full charges to the iPhone, so I think it should work just fine as an "on the go" power supply.

I really wanted the white PSPGo but Dell only had the black. And with the discounts I got (over $70 including taxes) I figure I can live with black!

Unless I take the black unopened PSPGo to Walmart and see if they would trade it for a white????
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coologuy1957

I am still pissed off that sony did not upgrade the battery life! The last review I read said the PSPgo actually got about an hour less of battery life. They kept saying the UMD was sucking the battery dry... Now they removed the UMD, added bluetooth, and increased the screen brightness and the battery is worse than before!!!

(that being said, I'm used to my PSP battery life sucking.... thats the cost of the best mobile graphics you can buy...)
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deinfinityx

Well i would imagine the bluetooth is what kills the battery faster. Bluetooth is the worst battery hog around, although the ability to tether to a phones bluetooth and use web is a plus.
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coologuy1957

I haven't read about any tethering but I hope its there... that would make for some truly mobile gaming... the review I saw said the PSP-2000 or 3000 got 4-6 hours of battery life and the PSPgo got 3-5 hours.... that is pretty disheartening... I wanted to point it out because we have been doing a pretty favorable comparison of these, but the older models now have better battery life, bigger screens, and can play both hard and soft media...
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deinfinityx

I just read in a newer engadget post or something like that, that it has the ability to tether over bluetooth.
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coologuy1957

thats good... I guess users will just have to have portable chargers around... It can already charge through wall outlet and USB from a computer, so its not crazy.... I just wish "the most portable PSP of all" was portable fro longer without dying...
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deinfinityx

True but lack of battery tech there. Honestly though i still don't see the go doing well without a price drop even with the decent additions.
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MonkeyZero

It's true. Just read on Engadget that firmware 6.10 include the ability to tether through bluetooth to your cellphone for wireless gaming. Hope you have unlimited data and good 3G coverage! LOL
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deinfinityx

Yeahit is a great addition although with bluetooth on both devices would suck through battery like crazy, so unless you can charge both at the same time it would be kinda worthless.
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MonkeyZero

Another thing about battery life...
I can understand that Sony sees the PSP as a portable gaming device so they don't feel that the battery life needs to be that long. The problem is in their misconception of how gamers play games. They feel that games should be designed to be played in chunks, short, quick, portable chunks. What they are failing to realize is that there are a ton of gamers out there that really want a full, console style experience on a handheld platform.

I can't count the number of times I've sat and played a game on my PSP for more than 6 hours. I basically treat it like a portable console. Not something that plays broken down, dumbed down versions of games I play at home.

This is the issue I have with the new Gran Turismo for PSP. It sucks. It's not a Gran Turismo experience. I play GT to do the career mode, the upgrading of the cars, the licensing (pain in the butt but still integral). My favorite GT is GT2. The reason being is because the simulation mode was so deep I could play for hours and hours and never get bored of it. Matter of fact, I've literally never, NEVER, put my arcade disc in the system. Not once. I want simulation mode, and I want the real thing.

Sony doesn't get that and until they do we will be left with sub-par hardware and software for the portable systems.
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deinfinityx

I would agree, i never put the arcade version in the console, same with Forza never played arcade mode just wasn't fun. I even played the hour long races on Forza 2, granted they sucked and it was frustrating when i crashed but i see what you are saying. I think the Go is being designed more for quick burst of games like peggle or games similar kind of like the apple phone.
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MonkeyZero

I actually love the endurance races in GT2 and my brother and I took turns racing and sleeping and ran all of them in a row over a few days. It was awesome. We grew up going to the 24hrs of Daytona and to be able to "drive" in something similar was just way cool. Sorry, that's drifting way off topic, but it furthers my point that I would do that on a PSP GT also. I would walk around the house, or the mall, or wherever I was playing and be glad to drive a 12 or 24 hour race in real time. And I don't think I'm alone in that. If I am then why do the LeMans games sell? Granted not great but they sell, and you can race a full 24hrs. in those.
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coologuy1957

I don't even have that big of a problem with them wanting people to play in chunks... its just the convenience factor of putting it in standby and picking up the console to play whenever I want... I hate picking up the PSP and turning it on and the battery light is blinking or the battery with a slash through it pops on the screen and it powers down... its very depressing...
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aversusb

A couple of the reviewers (IGN, Kotaku) said that they were getting close to 5 hrs of play time. I will run a battery test over the weekend and see what "real world" is. Dell shipped last night and I should have it when I get home today.
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MonkeyZero

Oh just keep rubbing it in why don't ya! :)
Actually I think my wife is getting me one for my birthday tomorrow. Yippee! I said I wouldn't buy one, I never said I wouldn't take one. lol
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aversusb

I went ahead and got the white one from a GS pre-order (with trade-in Power crap)

I have the black one from Dell sitting at home. Want to buy it from me? $230 with free shipping if you are in the states. save you a few bones!
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MonkeyZero

Aww. Not fair. I'll have to wait to see if the wife gets me one. I'll know in the morning since I'll get my birthday gifts then. Tempting, tempting... I'm still undecided on white or black but leaning more towards the black. My fingers are crossed that she gets me one, then I don't have to justify spending the money to myself. No buyers remorse! YEAH!!
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aversusb

I have 21 days to return to Dell. Let me know on Friday if you get it...
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aversusb

BTW: For gadget heads...it is very cool!
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MonkeyZero

Yea, I held one at Sears about a week ago. Couldn't turn it on or anything but the feel was real nice in my larger than average hands. I don't have big mongoloid fingers, just long fingers. It didn't feel like I would be too cramped on long bouts of gaming goodness. I'm excited but I can't get too excited should it not be one of my gifts. We'll see...
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