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andrewruess

Nook or Kindle?

I like that the Nook has a color touch screen for navigation, WiFi, and GSM/HSPA (overseas access). Same price as the Kindle too.

If you don't have a Kindle already, which way are you leaning? Kindle or Nook? Seems like B&N have over a million books in their store already... last I saw Amazon had around 900,000 ebooks available.

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Trubu

IF you can load your own, unprotected eBooks like you can with the Kindle (and that looks like a big if at the moment), I would definitely go for the nook. I have a Kindle 2 and I love reading on it, but navigation on the nook looks like it would be leagues better than the clunky Kindle interface, with its fidgety 5-way joystick, Chiclet keyboard and slow e-ink page refreshes. B&N also has the advantage of their brick-and-mortar stores, where I imagine they'll do some cool exclusives for the nook.
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tylr

The Nook has native support for PDF's so I imagine loading your own books as PDF's would be super easy!

Stoked!
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kewlfocus

Isn't ePub an open format too? It supports loading of ePub files, so, that should be good.
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dave

The Nook sounds REALLY enticing. We'll have to see what sort of features it supports though. Wasn't there a rumor that this would tie into Google's public book search (for books in the public domain)? That would be huge!
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Chrysalid

Really? If that becomes the case, I would be incredibly impressed and my interest level in this bad boy would immediately double.
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TheWacoKid

My main questions are.....
1. Real world battery life? Am i able to turn the LCD off to save battery power?
2. Price for the books? Will B&N keep the prices reasonable?
3. Will B&N be aggressive in making as many titles as possible available?
4. Can it run Doom?
5. What is the user experience like?
6. Will it be sold in the B&N retail stores? If so, that might just murder the Kindle.

From what i saw in the video, im leaning Nook. The ability to quickly and easily borrow and lend books from and to my digital library is, to me, REALLY cool. Cant wait for Uncle Walt and the main gadget blogs to get their hands on it so we can get some meaty reviews.
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itchyeyes

1. B&N is saying 10 days without wireless on, though I imagine that's with pretty limited use of the LCD. In the Nook promotional video they show a setting for putting the LCD to sleep after a period of inactivity (looks like they have it at 5 seconds in the video).

2. Prices look pretty similar to Kindle prices, with most new releases at $9.99 and older titles around $6.00. They've also got a dedicated section to free books, so you don't have to wade through everything else to find them like you do on Amazon.

3. Hard to say at this point. They're partnering with Google Books, so that's a big jump right there. I think the real question is how much of a percentage they're going to want, as Amazon's terms have really kept some publishers away from the Kindle.

4. It is running Android, so it's quite possible.

5. They're doing a live event today at 4 so I imagine we'll know more around then.

6. Without a doubt. They've already said that they will be on display as well for people to try out, and there were rumors they'd be selling at Best Buy too.
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itchyeyes

I gotta hand it to B&N/Plastic Logic, this thing looks pretty impressive. As I've already got a Kindle 2 (which I still love), and am therefore locked into .azn format for the time being, I'll be sticking with that for a while. But if I was in the market for an eBook I would definitely be considering this. On features I'd give Nook the edge for WiFi, UI, Sharing, and SD card slot, and Kindle the edge for battery life.

I think the competitiveness of the library is going to be wait-and-see. B&N is touting over 1 million titles, but a good portion of those are going to be from Google books, which is mostly public domain stuff. Amazon is at 364,000 titles right now, but a lot more of them are newer and currently popular titles. My real hope here is that the Nook will put some pressure on Amazon to ease up on their ridiculous terms for publishing Kindle books (they take 70%) and grow their library some more.
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AdamWillis

A big reason I never got the kindle, even though I really wanted one, was because of the page formatting. I really like having actual page numbers and being able to share them or flipping to them without having some random number to worry about when it comes to where I am in a book. For example: I was reading a book recently then handed it off to a friend when I was done and I told them that my favorite part started at page 70.

Which brings me to a new point I really like about the nook, is sharing books. I wouldn't loan out my reader but I would share to their iPod touch or whatever other compatible device they have.

The one thing I dislike about the nook, is that it only lasts 10 days at most with the wireless turned off (i know that is a long life but doesn't seem nearly as long as the kindle). Though, that is a small thing to cry about.
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estoughton

That bottom screen looks really cool.
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ArmpitOfDeath

Well - as a gadget the nook (network book?) looks far more interesting.

I bet Sony are going "Oh ****, not ******* again! For ***** sake!".

*Goes to remove Daily Edition from Want list*
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fourblades

LOL, I've been calling it a nook book...
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EduardoMolteni

I thing the N stand for New Book or better yet No-book
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mwall416

I have a Kindle, but still want a Nook. Here's a page from Barnes & Noble's Nook website comparing the two devices: www.barnesandnoble.com­/nook­/compare/ Like I said, the link is to Barnes & Noble's site, but it's still a pretty fair comparison. They don't mention if you can share books purchased on one account across multiple Nooks, like you can with the Kindle. My sister, mom, and I share books across my account, and it's perfect for us because our tastes are very similar and we read a lot of the same books.

I do have a concern about the bottom screen, and whether it can be turned off (or the brightness decreased, at least) while you're reading, especially at night. One of the best things about the Kindle is that it's exactly like reading a book, thus no eye strain. It seems like the bottom screen could contribute to eye strain, even if you're not looking directly at it. Also, if you're reading at night, how much light does it put out in the room? I wouldn't want my husband's sleep to be disrupted while I'm reading. My current booklight puts out the perfect amount of light to read by without lighting up the room.
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smorkiepol9

There is no back light, so you can't read in the dark; it's made to read like a real book, so you'll have to use a booklight. Also, the bottom screen automatically turns off when not in use.
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howlie

Don't yet have an ebook reader, but this and the Plastic Logic reader are bad ass.
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sandblade

Without a doubt, nook for me. It supports more formats, seems to be a better ergonomic design. The cases for it are way better than the kindle cases. Plus I think since it supports adobe ereader and epub, it may be compatible with my library's Overdrive service, but don't quote me on that. I still want to try one in person first, but barring any major problems, I will probably have one before 2010.
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mwall416

Update on the bottom screen: from information gathered at the press event, it looks like the bottom screen does go dark when not in use, which is great to hear. I just pre-ordered one at nook.com.
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jallenscott

I already pre-ordered mine. The major selling points for me were:
1: PDF support
2: Android based
3: ATT 3G
4: WiFi
5: Expandable storage
6: That touch screen is sweet looking
7: LendMe
8: EPUB and eReader support.


I just hope I'm not disappointed. The Kindle never caught my attention enough to want it, and it was never pleasing to the eye for me, so as petty as that is, it kept me from purchasing.
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gravescp

There are so many good things about this device, of course it really matters how the actually device performs IRL, but I love the direction it is traveling.

To be a true kindle killer (BTW I own a kindle 1 and love it!)
1. True PDF support
2. A clear e-ink screen (unlike the sony touch products)
3. Open Access with the WIFI
4. Last, and most important: Content, content, content. If it is not as easy and simple as the kindle store it will not win.

I cannot wait to play with a nook, but it looks like true potential exists :-)
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shadowplace1

I gone over the stories on various sites about the nook and it looks like it could be a real contender. The idea about sharing books is a good feature that for some reason amazon hasn't been able to figure out how to do yet.
While the Kindle does have the advantage that it was out to consumers sooner, the fact that the nook will be at stores so people can hold it and mess with it will help sales over the long run.
Thats partly the reason why i have held off purchasing a kindle till this day. I love the idea and would go for one but i wanna know how it works and feels to me which isnt something i can get from reviews online or videos and i haven't found anyone out in the world that i could asked to see it for a sec. i like the nook and right now is the e-reader i would like to get.
cant wait to see this at stores.
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timex104

I'm really excited for the Nook. I'm really glad to see that they've innovated unlike a lot of E-book readers that have come out recently. I typically just go to the library and borrow books instead of dropping the money to buy them, however if I could justify the purchase I would pre-order a Nook right now.
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gblanchette

The use of duel screens makes this far above than the kindle. However it still needs to be >$200 for me to consider it.
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smorkiepol9

I think you mean $200
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toddjy

> is "greater than". I think you mean < or "less than".
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blur

I was really excited about it at first, but now I think I'm going to wait a little longer. After doing some research the books I would want are either not available at BN but are on Amazon or they are a lot more expensive at BN. I'd suggest finding some books you want and make sure they're available and also compare the prices. I'm thinking Amazon will have to respond with a new revision by early next year and by then I may want to consider the Kindle again.
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smx

can it read books for you? like in the kindle? I sometimes like to listen instead of read
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Dpmt

I'll wait for a pure e-ink Plastic Logic. This simply lacks the file support I want and the PL UI looks better.

Also I want a bigger eBook. Letter/A4 size please.
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ArmpitOfDeath

Sometimes I think that especially when simplifying plans to output to PDF so that I can see them on the PRS-505 when I'm onsite, but an A4 size + necessary border would get in the way of everyday use IMO.
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lilbukka

I've already got a Kindle2 its all about the content that is available that make worth while. I feel the competition is a great thing though.
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darkwalt

Any stats on a browser?
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rutter9

I've been looking at e-reader's for a long time now. Almost bought a kindle a couple months ago. The second I saw this I pre-ordered right away. I don't think I will ever buy a book from the B&N store, but load all my PDFs on here.

I'm sure there will be all sorts of hacks, firmware flashes, and exploits coming soon.

No browser yet.
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DillieO

While it is far from a good technical argument, the Kindle never really appealed to me while the Nook is making me go "hmmm" It could be the color mini screen to navigate, and the lack of keys, could be that I'm just in a different place and time. Could be the additional support.

Regardless, you gotta give it to B&N for taking all the the desired features that the Kindle was lacking and making sure those went into the Nook.
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dimensia

Amazon is really dropping the ball compared to the Nook.

Another huge advantage of the B&N solution is they have a reader application for Windows and the Mac. This is a huge deal for reference books -- I want the ability to be able to read them on my computer while I am working.

I'm starting to regret getting a Kindle 2, wish I had waited for the Nook.

I'm not regretting getting to an eReader versus paper books though -- I love eReaders. They are so much more convenient and I find I read about 20% faster on them than I do on a paper back. I've read 2-3 as much ever since I got it.

The biggest downer in all this is the platform lock-in. All the books I got for the Kindle 2 can't be played on the Nook and vice versa.
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eawortman

The nook and the Kindle both have clients for PC, iPhone/iPod Touch and Blackberry. There is a Mac version already out for the nook, while the Kindle Mac client is "Coming Soon". Something to consider.
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robshields

I'm really excited about the Nook. I've been reading eReader books (and PeanutPress before that) for over ten years on my PDA or phone. B&N now owns eReader.com, so it makes sense that they support the eReader format. The fact that I can read my entire decade-old library on the Nook is awesome. I might be "locked" into a format, but it's a format I can see on *any* device (WinMo phone, PC, iPhone, Blackberrys, Nokias, and...eventually....Nook)
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missu

I like everything about the Nook except the fact it is using AT&T. Kindle uses Sprint.
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jamesbritton

Kindle is switching to AT&T with the new international model. This was a good move as the rest of the world is on GSM (read: bigger market to sell these devices)

As much as I despise AT&T's data connection, it really doesn't matter much for an eBook reader since you don't really need a fast connection. Many of these books are like 1 MB.
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jamesbritton

I've been purchasing books from Amazon for the Kindle for iPhone app in anticipation of someday purchasing a Kindle. Now, I'll be switching to B&N's iPhone app in anticipation of getting a nook: number one reason? ability to lend books to a friend. This is a brilliant move and will most likely increase word of mouth sales of eBooks (not to mention nooks) by allowing people to let their friends try it out on their iPhone.

Competition is a great thing and hopefully this will spur Amazon to make changes, but until then my money is on the nook e-book reader (say that five times fast).
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jdmiller82

I have never been interested in eBook readers... until now. B&N has blown me away. This device is the closest yet to getting it all right. My only beef is that their lending mechanism is a bit restrictive. From what I understand, from Gizmodo, you can only lend a book once, and that is it for that book, forever. Also the I can't read it cause I lent it "real world" model is a load of bull.

Still despite that, its amazing, and I want one!
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llocen

I'm still holding out for the Plastic Logic Que. I really want the Nook but I don't want to buy it now and then realize that I would rather have the Que once that comes out. I haven't had an eReader before now so I guess I can wait a few more months.
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MaxBender

Let's wait and see what this device really offers. I have a Kindle 2 and I am really excited to see some competition come out. This will be good for all consumers. I hear a lot of conflicting "facts" about this device and I think it is somewhat more limited than folks are thinking this will be. First and foremost, content is king to me. It's my opinion that Amazon will be tough to match in this arena. For me, I couldn't care less about "DRM" or other proprietary limitations. Things I read on the Kindle are "consumables" not books I want to keep for a long time. I read periodicals and contemporary works (I don't watch movies twice and I generally don't read books twice). I like have a single purpose e-reader (I don't need to get email or surf the web). I don't really care about a touch screen other than my biggest gripe with the Kindle is the "clicky" sound the page turn buttons make - muffled but annoying.

From what I understand, you will need to be in a B&N store to download books by wireless. Otherwise, you will need to hook up to a pc. The ability to download anywhere on the Kindle is a feature I originally thought wouldn't be a big deal, but now I value the most. I travel a lot and don't want to boot up my laptop every time I want to retrieve a book or sample.

Finally, many of the features that distinguish the two devices are software driven. Amazon can, and most certainly will, offer software updates to make more features available. Again, this is why its great to see competition. As much as I love the feel and smell of physical books, I am absolutely convinced that electronic books are the future and we will see a lot of innovation happening soon.
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beth

"From what I understand, you will need to be in a B&N store to download books by wireless. Otherwise, you will need to hook up to a pc"

this is correct for WiFi (unless you have wifi at home), but the Nook also has 3G (AT&T) wireless, so you should be able to download from almost anywhere. Just go on B&N.com and read about it. For the life of me I can't understand why everyone is asking basic questions here when the answers are right on the b&n site.
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controljunkies

I cant wait to see how this plays out. I've been holding off on purchasing a Kindle in hopes that something better was on the horizon. This may be what I was waiting for.

Hope to see an API from B&N. Since its Android based, the dev community could create a lot of interesting software for it.
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joeypore

Issue is, book prices.

B&N, at best, matches Amazon's prices. Never once have they beat them.

Most of the time, B&N's ebook prices are just too much above Amazon's to consider getting the Nook.
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redhed

B&N gives a free book every week and the Nook has access to public library books.
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darkwalt

You know, I really like the design of the nook, but I want a browser in my reader so I can look at google reader. I would like to peruse my rss feeds from said device, but since the nook doesn't have one (yet) i've been taking a good look at look at Spring Designs Alex or Alexa. It's ugly as hell, but at least I'll only have to carry around one device instead of two. Someone send me a message when they finally hack a browser into the nook.
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alexdurham

I would love a Nook. It's a shame that I can't get it in the U.K. I think it looks better than the Kindle and seems to have a few more features too. Either way, I think it's interesting we have another, serious competitor to the Kindle!
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