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October 18th 2011 12:34 pm

Poor Droid Bionic and iPhone 4S

Well it seems with this announcement, the Droid RAZR is the tech stats are the best we've seen yet. Impossibly thin, 1.2 GHz dual core processor, 8MP 1080p camera. 1GB RAM (instead of 512 like the iPhone 4S) 4.3" screen. (iPhone needs to do this) 4G on Verizon.. it's looking good......

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dave

Poor Droid RAZR in about 12 hours when the new Nexus is announced.

What can you say, the mobile industry is faced paced! At a certain point, people's eyes kind of glaze over when looking at specs. Look at the iPhone 4S -- there are still better spec'd phones on the market, but it still sold millions of phones in its opening weekend.
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rustyg

we shall see...
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SciFitz

because the iPhone 4s is not for people who care about specs or optimal performance. They buy iPhones because they work without much need for management.
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dave

To be fair, this is how most devices should work. I'm not sure why people like having this masochistic relationship with their gadgets.

"Yeah, battery life sucks if I forget to turn off apps, and it comes with bloatware preinstalled. But dammit, it's open!"

Also: the iPhone 4s is not for people who care about specs or optimal performance.

I challenge you to show me a phone currently on the market that performs more "optimally."
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SciFitz

I define optimal performance as the ability to tweak a smartphone to the limits of its chipset. The ability to own your device; to be able to decide what apps you want on your device, to be able to overclock to add memory, to work on the fastest network provided by your carrier, to support dual-n WiFi. That's what I mean by optimal. You can't get that right now in Apple's version of Hotel California.
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rustyg

for those of us who like management, (techy's, nerds) we like the android and its capabilities. For the masses who don't care and have no idea what any of that is, the iPhone. That is why it is the top seller. Simplicity.
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dave

Except this analogy fails since many avid tech enthusiasts (myself included) prefer iPhones.

Yes, it comes down to personal preference, recommendations from friends and family, and even whether things like "simplicity" or "specs" mean anything. In my case, I also like the fact that things usually just work. (Except with iOS 5 -- where I'm inexplicably losing battery life for no apparent reason.)

On the corollary, you also see a number of people use Android devices (moms, pops, grandpas, etc) who are generally non-tech savvy people. It works both ways. There's really no rhyme or reason for it.
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frankspin

I would actually say this is partially wrong because so many Android phones are under 150 or even as low as 99, so they're in more people's hands that would fit into your iPhone analogy.
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rustyg

well the reason for the price drop is because their are more options, there are low end and high versions of android devices. Also there are so many to choose from, so many sales people feed off of that. They sell EVERYONE on the fact that there are so many options in the android world. Apple would rather sell you on the fact that there is only one. No complicated, what works with what, or what version is out and works on what device. They sell because of simplicity, again. So yeah, I am seeing a LOT more Androids out there, but I am also see LOT of iPhone out there too, for those who can afford it.
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connorg

iPhones sell to the mainstream market because of simplicity, and Android phones sell to the mainstream market (largely) because they're cheaper. Although, with a $99 iPhone 4 and a free iPhone 3GS now available I think we'll start to see iPhones chip away at the dumbphone market like Android has been doing for a couple years now.

iPhones and Android phones both sell to the "techie" market because of personal preference. Some people want the best experience out of the box with the option to customize it if they want (via jailbreaking) while others enjoy setting their phone up exactly the way they want it and having the horsepower to do it.
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bobbyco57

It's the user experience and after market support that trump hardware specs. Plus, the one hardware spec that nobody beats Apple on yet is the visually stunning retina display.
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mike

I wouldn't be so quick to say "poor iPhone 4S" as Apple is about to announce yet another quarter with record-breaking earnings – mostly led by sales of iPhones. Apple doesn't need to do anything...it's everyone else who needs to compete for the scraps in the smartphone market.
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rustyg

I wouldn't say it against the sales half of it. Because REAL people don't care about specs. usually geeks and phone nerds care about specs. I am one of those. REAL people have no idea what most of that means anyway. I am just saying from a specs point of view. The RAZR is better.
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cass

Specs are only one side of the story. How snappy does the phone feel when using it? Also, 4G is a battery killer.

Judgement is being tightly held for now.
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rustyg

that's why the have an 1800mAh battery.. probably to cover that 4G drain
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cass

The Droid Razr has a 1780 mAh battery (see presser here www.engadget.com­/2011­/10­/18­/motorola­-droid­-razr­-un...) and the Bionic has a 1735 mAh battery. I haven't heard too many good things about the Bionic battery, so the Razr might not be a big improvement based on the battery alone. Let's hope that Motorola and Ice Cream Sandwich (assuming it's coming to the device) have better power management this time around.
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SciFitz

My friends are telling me about poor battery performance on the iPhone 4s. Plus it is not 4G.
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cass

I think this is more of a software issue, stuff syncing in the background or something. I think after a month or so, Apple with have a fix for this.
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groovechicken

Most of Apple's problems with all their gadgets are software related because their programmers are terrible in comparison to the industry average and their QA engineers apparently are too busy deleting negative comments from the Apple forums to actually do their jobs properly. I say that as a long-time Apple user who recently gave up on them entirely.
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frankspin

While you may be comfortable with adding on your own battery and having the top of the line specs, the average consumer could not care about that. If they did the iPhone would not have the market share it currently has.
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rustyg

Also I did say Droid Bionic.. yet no one is mentioning that
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frankspin

Because the Bionic came out 9 months after it originally was supposed to and with no other improvements.
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rustyg

As I said in the comment by @mike below:
I wouldn't say it against the sales half of it. Because REAL people don't care about specs. usually geeks and phone nerds care about specs. I am one of those. REAL people have no idea what most of that means anyway. I am just saying from a specs point of view. The RAZR is better.
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nitehawk

The RAM is the only thing that sticks out to mebig sticking points being left out :
-Still can't talk and surf on VZ at the same time
-Motorola phones suck, just general knowledge that they break more often than HTC, Apple, Samsung, and other big manufacturers.
-a bigass screen with HD graphics means the super slim phone will need a bigass battery to keep it from dying after 2 hours of use
-Can't manage your music/phone through iTunes
-peripherals will only work with this exact phone. Not next year's RAZR, etc.
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cass

I don't think Motorola's devices suck. I've had my Droid X for about a year now and haven't had any hardware issues, some minor software issues. Not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Also, you can always manage your music with Doubletwist!
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stacey

Bro, you can talk and surf with LTE. And my Moto device is just fine. Hardware is good , but software on the other hand needs some work. And lastly iTunes ain't working with anything that doesn't have a shiny apple on the back.
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