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Regthmare

Possibly my biggest mistake in buying a console.

Where are the war games? The only title for the wii thats a war game is the CoD franchise. And they skipped CoD 4. Zombie games: House of the Dead(Sucks), and Dead Rising:Chop til you Drop(Very Unpolished).

Nintendo really has the party game and causal gamer covered. This thing is going to be sitting around for a while.

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ssifferd

You need a gaming PC for that stuff
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gardnercole

Ditto--well, somewhat. I bought the console purely for casual gaming, as I knew it wouldn't be able to push anything like the 360/PS3. Just look at the little thing. The design of the system itself disallows for the mother/logicboard needed to push good graphics and the speed needed to power the great games you desire.

However, the casual/family/party-based game niche is exactly who Nintendo is going after with the Wii. There is a massive group out there who don't need the best games/graphics, who don't need anything fancy. All they want to do is sit & relax (or stand and get a massive sweat or tennis elbow going) and enjoy the game.

It's a great console if all you want to do is play motion-based (well, some motions) games, or a great reincarnation of Punch-Out (which is well worth the money, btw).
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Regthmare

I agree 100%(Well besides for the "I bought it for causal gaming"). My biggest mistake was getting it before I knew about what there demographic was going to be. It seems for right now, they've mastered the causal gaming experience.

Now, if they somehow built in a media player into the OS(Not just photos, but video) that would be great. The only restriction there is space, but if they make a HDD like the 360 and pair it by USB I'd buy it right away.
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tomb

"Causal" gaming -- a new category. I love it! Sounds like some sort of VR. Someone is going to make bucks off of this.
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osulep

To me it's a tremendously successful waste. It's a toy, nothing more. If it shipped with Wii motion plus and enough horsepower to push HD resolutions I'd be happy, but the visuals are abysmal and that keeps me from enjoying almost any game on the platform.
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Regthmare

Well, really, I'd love to get a PS3, but I don't have the money right now. I'm not going to go the route of a gaming rig because I don't use windows. I'm either Ubuntu or OS X. And by the looks of it, the PS3 has the best CPU and GPU out of the three consoles(Lol, wii). The PS3 also has great support for war games, and such of the like. I'm not really thinking the 360 because of the RRoD, and hardware problems. It's also made by MS(Not really a problem with me, but it's icing on the cake).
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kempo

In a way, i don't really see the Wii as a gaming console - I'm sure most people don't. It's never really been marketed as such either.

Nintendo have circumvented the traditional console wars by finding this huge casual-gaming market which MS and Sony are only really beginning to tap into. As such, I have a Wii for fun with friends & family (my parents have one too now - they play Wii Sports and Mario Kart more than I do...) and the saved up for a 360 to get in on some proper gaming action.

With the cost of the Arcade edition now getting really low, if you can bare not having much internal memory the xbox is probably your best option for war games. Don't quote me, but i get the impression from various forums...etc that the hardware issues have died down significantly over the past year or so.
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kendall015

I didn't expect much beyond party games when I bought mine, and it hasn't disappointed. This console is really fun for playing games with different people with varying skill levels, especially because of Wii Sports, but for the solo gamer it isn't that great.
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Regthmare

Yea, I also for got about that route. Really it's have a more expensive console, with a little better GFX, and the reassuring nature of not that many hardware failures, or the less expensive, pretty good graphics, and many hardware failures. I'll have to debate this one for a while.
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coologuy1957

Too many people hate the Wii for what it isn't, and forget what it is. I can never regret buying a Wii. I was lucky enough to get one on launch day and have had some of the best times with family and friends with it since then. That Thanksgiving and Christmas were magical and I know with my 360 or PS3, it just wouldn't have been the same. I couldn't have bowled with my Grandpa or gone from playing Tennis to Mario Kart to Super Mario Bros. all on the same console! With family and friends, Wii is tops. For single-player, co-op, FPS, and online games, stick with your PS360. It's that simple.
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jdplala

Spot on analysis. I agree 100%!
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Regthmare

Yes, I also loved playing with people in my family, and this is one of the reasons I'm not going to get rid of it. But I don't use it that often and that's why I want to get a PS3.

Also, well, it looks like there might be some promising FPS's coming out for Wii soon, or are out already. The Conduit & Dead Space Extraction look good.
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coologuy1957

I still have nightmares about Medal of Honor 2 for the Wii. The single player was lots of fun and had pretty great graphics. But I rented it to see if the online component was solid...... Oh my goodness, did this part of the game look terrible. I have lots of Wii games and have been pretty satisfied with the graphics, but for some reason the online component looked like trash. The textures were super low res and when you jumped your "soldier" looked more like super mario. Each soldier looked like a blurry toy soldier and the whole thing just felt wrong. I really thought that game would bring the Wii into the future....... I hope the Conduit and others will accomplish this. The last Wii game I beat was..... um .. Super Smash Bros?? There's just not enough good Wii games released... Meanwhile on the PS3, I recently beat Star Wars Force Unleashed, Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted, Resistance, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine (I play Halo 3 nightly too, I don't discriminate!). I really want all these consoles to have tons of sweet games... please run a little faster Nintendo! That said I'm super-psyched for more New Super Mario Bros., Mario Galaxy, and Metroid: Other M!
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Regthmare

Haha, I know what you mean about MoH 2. CoD 5 online play is very good for the Wii. I still play it.

And as for the conduit: wii.ign.com­/dor­/objects­/14248157­/the­-conduit­/video...

THe graphics look very very very good. Online play too.
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ecolindsay

Agreed. I love my Wii and the games that it has.

As an aside, Nintendo should offer more accessories to Miis. If expect people to make avators, then allow for more variability and offer more games where you can play as them. An RPG with Miis and Friends' Miis? Truly awesome.

The only reason I would like a 360 is to have the netflicks streaming as well as the the other online (non-gaming)/computer streaming capabilities.
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pacdude

I understand the need for more "serious gaming" but what ever happened to playing for fun? I've actually had fun, positive experiences with my friends over the Wii, not unlike breaking bread over dinner with my friends. There's a snootiness in game console owners that I just don't understand. If you want to relive the atrocities of World War II over and over again, I'm sure you know where to go. If you want to shoot a rabbit in the face with a plunger, there's a place for that too. Please don't crap over my fun time because you can't kill Nazis!
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stridermt2k

The wife and i are really enjoying Tiger Woods 10.

We've got a few other titles, but the golf is my favorite thus far.

For "hard core" gaming I have a Core i7 gaming PC I built.

(interesting bug: Posted -1 years ago!)
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LewisBeechey

I like the Wii, don't get me wrong, but it really isn't a Wargame type of console - more of an interactive fun console (golf etc). I used to own one and got rid of it for the simple reason that there weren't enough games at the time I had it.

I love the games that Nintendo sell for the Wii though (Wii fit/sport etc).
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relawnch

I too regret ever buying the Wii! I haven't played my Wii for a long time because it offers less game titles and all the cool features (like ordering pizza via the Wii) are all only available in Japan and nowhere else in the world.
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thedarkangel

If you bought a Wii and complain about wargames, it means that you didn't know what youwere buying.. no more no less..

I have a Wii and I play with it every time I want to play arcade games or party games or for fast casual gaming, and I think that is the best choice for all of this purposes.

For war game, others consoles... but I prefer playing them on my PC ^_^

AND YOU DONT NEED HD FOR ENJOYNG A GAME... you are blinded by the marketing.

cheers
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fatchicken

Yeh i have both a wii and a 360. I bought my 360 first and love it but the i decided to buy a wii do to my nintendo fanboyism. I bought mario galaxy which i loved but then i never felt like buying anymore wii games. My wii was just gathering dust until i decided to hack it. Now i play free wii isos straight from a HDD that is connected to my wii thrpugh USB. The wii may not have the best graphics but it can still be a fun console. If you dont want your wii, sell it to someone who really wants one. And to those of you saying the wii isn't a gaming console, you are DEAD WRONG. Better Graphics ≠ More Fun.
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Regthmare

See, I don't really see the point to hacking my wii though. What kind of stuff will it allow you to do besides run cracked games?
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mak

The Wii is definitely not for a serious, hard core gamer.
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techronos

I should have spent more time using other people's Wii before buying one myself. I am not a hard core gamer by any means, but after a few weeks with the Wii it just felt gimmicky. I continued to hold onto it to buy the older games, but the timing is slightly off over the wireless controller, so my jumps in Mario aren't quite right and my blocks in Punch Out!! aren't right either. I didn't realize it before buying, but when I play Madden, I want to use my fingers, and not my whole body. Just a personal preference, but it's going up on craigslist soon after I take it out of the closet, where it's been for 6 months.
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connorg

"where are the war games?" you mean you WANT more war games? I only bought CoD:WaW because FPS controls are awesome on wii, but even that i stopped playing before i even finished the campaign.
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Regthmare

Well, really if you look on bestbuy.com, say, and look at the ratio of "war-games:not war-games"(Not just WWII wargames, but alien war games etc) on the wii, and then look at the PS3 or 360's, they blow the wii out of the park.

I just got the Conduit for wii and this is a prime example of what can be done with the wii(as in war/fps games). The graphics are great for the wii but more importantly, the gameplay is good. Pretty much the best part of it though, is the controls. In the Conduit you can change the sensitivity to WHATEVER you want. Not just a low medium and high. It's a 1 out of 100 kind of thing. And you can change 6 different things on it. You change also change the button controls to whatever you want. Maybe switch the C button from jump to reload.
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TheAssailant666

Let me tell you right now, if all you want is FPS don't bother with 360 or PS3. Dual-analog is crap, but that's not the main reason. EVERY FPS GAME IS BROWN. The dirt's brown, the grass is brown, the vehicles are brown, the lighting is brown, your skin tone is brownish. It's all just a huge, elaborate eyesore. I was playing Battlefield: Bad Company and got a headache from all the brown and genericness.

BTW, 90% of all FPSes are generic and the same. You play one and you've played them all.
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jld

I agree... it's been collecting dust since a year since i got it.... games on my PS3 is much more engaging and sophisticated... looks great and more fun.
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rmgreene

I like my wii and I'm glad I bought one. But honestly, it has been months since I've played any games on it. All the good games are on the 360 and PS3. I really only use it for when friends and family come over, and they want to play mario party or some kind of party game.
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emirabal

Just adding, if you are into good looking games that run well you need a ps3 or a 360 or a pc, but the only thing the wii has are the waggle sports games. If you want to have fun with those then by all means go for it. The 360 and the ps3 and the PC can play all the other games the wii has anyway.
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asharachal

i haven't turned my wii on in nearly a year. last game i played on it was mario kart. no games have come out for it that make me want to buy/rent/play them.
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qbert

If you really want to get your money's worth, you need to mod it!!
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Regthmare

Yea, I'm looking into that now. I've seen a few things around and it seems like their are DVD drive modchips(solderless) that let you play backed up games, and a modchip that runs with a modded OS(That lets you do more with your wii)?
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Jagoex

The Wii is suffering from the same problems that every other Nintendo console has suffered from post-SNES (or should I say, post-Sony Playstation): a lack of 3rd party variety and gambling with accessories and peripherals that may or may not "work" for the targeted audience. For someone that is looking for 3rd party games like CoD, MoH, etc, it is a GIVEN that Nintendo will not offer them to the extent that Sony and Microsoft will, and that the Wii would be a poor choice if that is your thing.

However, Nintendo has been very upfront about their system's design and what they intend it to be. It's not a powerhouse console for "standard" games like FPS and what not. It is a system with a broad range of applications, taking the approach that it is not the game that makes the experience, but how you play it.

I love my Wii and the fact that my niece and nephew can play the system with their parents -- all of which aren't gamers in the least bit. The Xbox360 and PS3 don't really offer the same kind of flexibility for the cost, I'm afraid.

To put it plainly, you're angry at your apple for not being citrus-y enough when you should have bought an orange. Trade it in, or better yet, compliment the system with a PS3 or Xbox360. They go very well together. :)
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greeny

My dad bought a wii for me and my younger brother to share, but the only game I played consistently was COD5. It's so much more fun on the wii. Apart from that there's nothing. I now play my PSX more than the wii. Then again, I play the PSX more than my PS2 lol...
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GrendelJapan

I'm always surprised by just how much people just love to whine about the Wii. Super Mario Galaxy, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Mega Man 9, and World of Goo are all outstanding. Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart, and several others are solid too. In my opinion, the Wii is the only console for serious gamers because it is an ideal compliment for a gaming PC.
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TheAssailant666

Right on. The customization in The Conduit is on-par with PC gaming. When it comes to FPS, Wii and PC are the way to go, don't bother with dual-analog.

BTW, you gonna get Metroid Prime Trilogy?
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Nerfus

I have a Wii and PS3. Wii never gets touched unless little kids or family are around.
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TheAssailant666

That's disgusting. Why would you only want to touch your Wii when little kids and family are around?
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Nerd

Yes
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TheAssailant666

I take it you guys haven't looked at MadWorld or No More Heroes or The Conduit, nor have you looked at the recent "hardcore" games on Wii. Dead Space: Extraction and Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, both exclusive to Wii, look really good, and we know they'll play really good.

And what's this about graphics? You don't need them in HD and super-realistic to have fun, and I can prove it: Remember Super Mario bros. on the NES? Exactly.

As for the PS3 having a better GPU than the 360, I have never heard such a huge lie in my life. The 360's GPU is better than the PS3's GPU, Rockstar can tell you that as they had issues with GTA IV in PS3. The CPU on PS3 is a lot better though and looking at the demo of CryEngine3, the PS3 seems to enjoy better framerates over the 360.

And if you need violent games in order for a console to appeal to you, you're pathetic. Also, if I can remember correctly, the Wii has the largest mature audience. Don't believe me? Look at all the Grandpas and Grandmas, along with parents, 20-somethings, and teens that play it.

And now to further rub salt in your wounds: Wii Play has sold more than Halo 3.

For the record, and you can check this, I do want both a PS3 and a 360, but that doesn't mean shit. You can't attack something for having small amounts or nothing at all. That's like complaining the PS3 is retarded because it isn't a portable with a touch screen.
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digitaltekniq

I have all 3 of the current consoles, and it gets used in this order.

XBOX360 -> PS3 -> Wii. Taking all technical pissing contests out of the picture, the Wii just doesn't have the game support that I want. And never will, I'm sick and tired of Mario, Mario 64 was never beat, and if I lay eyes on another Mario Kart game, I'm going to puke. I'll never buy another piece of Nintendo hardware.
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TheAssailant666

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coologuy1957

The Wii is super good times. It just needs games to play. Whenever I go to Blockbuster to rent a game, theres a ton for the PS360 and maybe 1 game each month for the Wii. As a matter of fact, the last Wii game I rented was the Wario game (Shake It!). It was fun as hell, but I didn't finish it and I'm not itching to play it again. I'll probably buy it when its $10. If more Wii games launched at $15, I'd buy way more anyway. I want to play The Conduit and MadWorld, its just hard to get excited for them once I rented Uncharted and inFamous. Those are two of the best games I've played in a while; I would include X-Men Origins: Wolverine as well. None of those games exist on the Wii (wolverine is dumbed down) and they wouldn't be the same. I'm buying Wii Sports Resort because I still play the original so much and I love those quick games you can throw on without thinking and play all night with friends. Hopefully the glory will return to the Wii with Wii Sports Resort, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid Other M, Zelda, Pikmin, and New Super Mario Bros. I will buy any 2D Mario game from now until forever.......
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