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ShawnPConroy

July 19th 2013 11:21 am

Should I avoid Motorola phones?

I know the phone hasn't been announced just yet. But listening to Leo Laport who did see it makes me think it might be something special. Now, I have certain features that I will not buy it if it does not have. But my first smart phone was the Droid (Milestone here in Canada) and it was terrible. Random reboots. Slow to get upgrades.

I think it may have been the best Android on the market at the time. But it was not a reliable phone. I blame the hardware. (And slow updates on the software team.)

I will probably buy a new phone between now and when Google announces the next Nexus 4 revision. I'm leaning toward the Nexus 4 update. But if the Moto X is a good phone I'd think about it. But I'm worried it will have the same problems.

And I didn't hear about reboots and announces like that on reviews of the Droid/Milestone. Maybe you have to use it for more than a week to get the low down on it? Any comments or suggestions?

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TgD

Ah I remember wanting a Milestone when it came out.

When the Moto X is launched here, at the start it will be a Rogers exclusive. So if that is not your carrier of choice, you will have to wait more. Carriers and phone vendors have got much better in the past year or so with delivering timely updates, however the nexus phones will still be the first to get a new version.

I would keep this in mind, no matter what phone you want; pretend like it will never get any future software update. Do you think you will still be happy with it in 2 (the new contract length) years? If so, then that is probably a good phone to get. Don't buy a phone because it may get better in the future if it is not what you need in the present.

I have a nexus 4 and am pretty happy with it, but it isn't the perfect phone. There is no solid rumors about a successor to it yet, and you may be waiting a while. Also with the rising plan prices in Canada this month, if may be better to go off-contract, and the current generation of Nexus 4 is much cheaper off contract compared to what the Moto X will be
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JedidudeStar

I was going to write a big response to the OP (on why the original droid had its problems and why the Moto X will most likely not have any of them) but then I read your reply and one part stood out the most:
"no matter what phone you want; pretend like it will never get any future software update."
I agree with you. The only reason not to do this is if you just have to have the latest in tech. For any other regular consumer your statement is the best advice I have seen in a while.
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ShawnPConroy

It is good advice. But I am curious what your insights to the Droids problems were, even if just briefly.
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frankspin

I doubt this phone will be littered with the same issues earlier Motorola phones had. Android phones in general, at least those in this spec range and higher, shouldn't have issues. What I'd watch for honestly is the price point. Considering the number of issues I'm seeing crop up about the Nexus 7 and it's speed, that would be my one concern; if you're not familiar it's been hypothesized that Asus used cheap flash memory in the N7 which is leading to major slow downs.
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TgD

Is there a source on that? I have seen some slowdowns on my Nexus 7, although some magic combination of resets has got mine running fast again.

I am really curious to read about it, or a long forum thread about user's experiences with the Nexus 7 slowdowns
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frankspin

androidandme.com­/2013­/06­/opinions­/one­-year­-later­-t...

First comment here: www.reddit.com­/r­/Android­/comments­/1hkn1m­/the­_nexus...
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ShawnPConroy

Apparently not. As Android 4.3 seems to have fixed all the problems. So it was Software, not hardware, that was the issue. Blame Google and not ASUS:

www.theverge.com­/2013­/7­/29­/4569764­/did­-android­-4­-3...

(Edit for wrong link)
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groovechicken

Based on my experience with other ASUS products over the past year, I believe it. I have officially added ASUS to my blacklist just below HP and Dell. I won't buy another ASUS product. There aren't many brands left making decent hardware to be honest. I never thought I would be saying, "they don't make 'em like they used to," about the tech industry.
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ShawnPConroy

Eh, I don't know: www.theverge.com­/2013­/7­/29­/4569764­/did­-android­-4­-3...

Seems like that wasn't the issue.
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groovechicken

If you want some insight into hardware reliability as relates to Motorola, check out my review of the Photon, where I discuss that very issue. From the sounds of things, you got a unit with flaky internal flash memory and should have taken it back for a replacement unit. The next one might not have had the issues you were experiencing. The industry as a whole is having issues with quality control on flash memory.
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sparkymcgee

I don't understand your trepidation when you're comparing the first generation mass market Android phone with the latest generation model. The Droid/Milestone was the first attempt, and the Milestone had a locked bootloader.

I had the original Droid, the Droid 2 Global, then moved to the Galaxy Nexus and now am on a Galaxy Note 2. Regardless, I'd be giving the Moto X a chance if I were you. The things you're describing happened 4 years ago (well, 3 if you got the Milestone when it came out, but the hardware's the same). It's like saying "well, that screen on the original iPhone was really lousy, should I trust Apple to give me a better screen in the iPhone 5?"
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ShawnPConroy

We are going to have to disagree here. A first generation mass market Android phone can suck all day long. But the problems I experienced should not happen on any device you charge hundreds of dollars for. Frequent & random reboots? That was what definitely pushed me over the edge in hating the Droid. Was it faulty hardware? Or software? either way, it should not have been released.
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yakeyonsen

With Google purchasing Moto and this being their first shot at it, I think it's a safe bet. In fact, I just ordered it for my wife. Super excited about it! In fact, I have moved from one Android device to another the last 4 years, I have had Samsung and HTC and have seen massive improvements from both companies with each new iteration. Those lags and reboots just seem to have been ironed out. I would imagine there isn't a new flagship that will be plagued with those issues like the early ones did (I experienced them too, with my HTC Hero and Evo 4g, then not a single hiccup on my HTC Evo 4g LTE and Note 2). Sorry this is random rambling!
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