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July 30th 2009 4:02 pm

UMD upgrade/trade-in?

Any more scuttle coming from the Sony camp about a UMD trade-in option? That is a must for me to even think about the PSPGo.

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coologuy1957

nothing whatsoever... they must really not want our money...
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deinfinityx

Which is why i want one of these but really don't I like the option of having physical and digital media.
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Arun985

I practically already have a PSPGo, cuz my PSP1000 stopped reading UMD's abt a yr ago. Didn't bother me tho, cuz I have a custom firmware running on it and can play games off the memory stick. However, the prospect of trading in my old UMDs for a code I can use to download those games/movies from PSN does sound interesting.
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coologuy1957

If I could get all digital versions of my current games and keep them all on the PSPgo, that would be cool. If playing on the PSPgo is comparable or better, that would be sweet. If I don't mind the smaller screen, that would be impressive. Even with all of these hypotheticals, I would still only pay the current amount a PSP goes for, with the PSP-3000 also dropping down to DS Lite levels. Sony is a bit retarded right now with prices and they need to fail for a little while to learn....

(Am I the only one that wanted the next PSP to be a revolution, not this minor evolution? It's clearly just a veiled attempt to curb piracy and, like with every other device, I will not pay more because someone else is paying nothing. Drop DRM and be loyal to your paying customers and move on with your business........)
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deinfinityx

Agreed all these little evolution is nothing revolutionary. I think a PSP with ability to play all ps2 games would be revolutionary and at a cheap price.
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aversusb

There has always been a Sony Tax on their products. Much similar to Apple's tax. They both still view themselves as premium products, and to their credit, often are premium. My PS3 has never broken...I am on my 5th Xbox. My PSP -2001 is rock solid. I don't mind paying the $249 since I plan on selling my Slim and accessories to recoup some cost.

But I was hoping that the PSPGo was actually the PSP2 as well. There is always next E3!
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deinfinityx

Agreed but look at other companies, I.E. Ninetendo, they are way more reputable then Sony especially in the hand held market and their portables are always cheap and very sturdy. I haven't had the care to buy the DSi since i have a lot of GBA advanced games but I don't think Sony should have this "tax" on their handhelds. The PS3 really doesn't have a "tax" either since they lose money on each console sold.
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coologuy1957

The "tax" just mean their price is higher than their competitors. I feel that Sony is a premium product and I play it more and like it more than my DS Lite. On the other hand, the DS Lite was so cheap when New Super Mario Bros. came out that I didn't hesitate to buy the console just so I could play that game. They have both been great and have held up. I did have to keep taking my PSP-2000 back to Gamestop to get one without a stuck pixel. My PSP Fat never had that problem, but it weighed me down a lot.

This same "problem" is happening with the PS3/Wii. People want to play games and be entertained and go to Best Buy/Wal-Mart and see the Wii as a complete system with a game the whole family can play for $250. Then they see the PS3 for $400 and $500 with games they may or may not care about. The 360 is all over the place in both price and configuration schemes. It seems most just walk out with the Wii..... Sony practically makes the decision for the parents of a child who wants a handheld game system - DS Lite $129; PSP-3000 $169. That's only a $40 decision. The PS3/Wii decision is at LEAST a $150 one. We gamers know theres a lot more involved like games and exclusives, but what do parents know!!?
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mastercane01

I agree on that
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deinfinityx

And i do agree with you especially about titles. There is a lot more titles i would like to play on PSP but the handful of the ones that make it to the DS are phenomenal. GTA china town wars was easily one of the best games i played for the DS same with Phantom Hourglass. Same with the Wii/PS3. I guess i could see the "tax" for the psp i guess i am just against companies that think that is how they should operate, like Apple.
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coologuy1957

GTA China Town, New Super Mario Bros., Brain Age, MarioKart, Metroid Prime Hunters super solid....

Sadly, Sony has always operated as the premium more expensive brand. Only recently, were they not actually the best....
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deinfinityx

And i agree the ps1 and 2 where phenomal ground breaking systems. Sadly i see bad times ahead of them especially since they started merging divisions together. I.e Sony viao and playstation.
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aversusb

Society has changed a lot. Back in the days of my parents and probably what was instilled in me...you bought quality products regardless of price. You had a VCR that lasted 10 years. We live in a cheap throw away society now...WalMart society if you will...and it is killing premium brands. This argument is proven over and over as people with 360's that RRoD keep sending them in, keep getting them fixed and having it happen multiple (5 for me) times. No way a generation ago would have stood for such shotty quality. Look at the US auto manufactureres in the 80s-90s when Honda and Japan kicked their tails in quality. People paid a premium for a car that would run longer, better.
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deinfinityx

I completely agree with you, its quite sad actually. But i have a lot of gadgets my parents bought and they work just fine, some not so much but a lot of them you can turn on and use without much problem. Although i kind of disagree products now a days are made a lot cheaper then they were but we also put a higher strain on them. Tech now a says just is more prone to failure just because of how hard we abuse it. I bet if you played a NES as much as a 360 or ps3 it would break. There are to many moving parts, which means one is going to break. Cars in the 60's worked so well because they had few moving parts. Now look at cars they have more moving/electrical parts then you could throw a stick at. I think that adds to the failure issue.
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coologuy1957

LOL - The NES is a standout with that up and down cartridge mechanism that everyone eventually messed up. But every other console based system lasted forever and we played them non-stop - be honest. Remember when games didn't save and you would leave your NES on while you went to school and come back and play? You would never do that with the PS360! Seriously! There would be red and yellow lights everywhere - like a stoplight but with no green light because you can't go! These things use at least 150 watts at all times and would literally melt into a puddle of silicon and my tears! Although my original PlayStation is still going strong, the PS2 I had to send in for laser repair after GTA III came out and I feel eventually the PS3 would probably need the same. Xbox 360 - forget about it! I sent in multiple original Xboxes for repairs, but I own 4 originals, for Halo C.E. LAN'ing. The dreamcast needs to be slapped sometimes, but it works. Optical disc technology is just a weaker medium - loads of storage, but disposable quality. Cartridges have no moving parts and load super fast, but their pins will eventually degrade and they store jack.

I don't really agree that we use our stuff more and thats the cause. We watched a ton of VHS growing up, recording and playing, renting movies and everything. There are some dvds that have never played on any of my dvd players, consoles included. Of course there is no iPhone equivalent because that is a completely modern object that encompasses all the things we do nowadays. But really, most people will upgrade to the newest best iPhone when its released, so they design these products to be used for about 3 years and then discarded.

All the analog/mechanical parts have great longevity. When your onboard computer crashes, you're done. When you have drive-by-wire systems, there is no direct connection from the steering wheel to the wheels so you cannot drive if the computer fails. Same with brake and brake-by-wire... I think companies factor in people trading up their phone and their car and their console and don't want it to last 10 years anymore. It adds to engineering costs to do that and most people get rid of it quickly anyway.
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