Using the Palm Pre WITHOUT a data plan
I wanted to know if anyone's purchased the Palm Pre sans contract or without a data plan, and if so, is it still usable?
Does the Pre still try to connect to 3G all the time, which I assume would result in some form of extra charge, or will it quiet down and only use wi-fi when it's available?
I'd really like to get this phone, but I'd really like to avoid the costly monthly data plan charges.
The system is call WebOS after all! Everything's connected all the time.
Would it still try to connect to the network, or just wait until wifi pops up? I don't mind waiting until I get to a hotspot for all my stuff to sync up - I don't need my facebook contact photos to be updated every minute ;) If anyone has a concrete answer to this question, I'd like to know the details.
When it gets released officially and starts to trickle out, maybe some of my Canadian comrades can confirm this option is available on Bell's network? If so, Palm Pre here I come :)
So much work to completely take away the very thing the phone was built around? -ridiculous.
Do yourself a favor, just go steal a non-functional demo from a store and pretend to use THAT instead.
But feel free to allow the phone company to gouge you for exorbitant amounts of cash each month :)
(Unless you are fortunate enough to have abundant available wifi saturation where you typically go)
One way to deal with the cost of a data plan is to squeeze it for every drop of data every month.
Check of there is a data usage cap on that smartphone plan. -if not, (and if your data coverage exists everywhere you'd typically need it) then leverage it hard and make it WORTH the extra money.
As soon as I found out there weren't any restrictions on my data plan I found out how to tether my phone to my computers using 3rd party programs (Windows Mobile) and now I utilize it constantly. If it wasn't for gaming (and my wife) I could probably ditch my land connection entirely.
I know that does nothing to take care of your cost concerns, but getting more and better utilization out of it could make a data plan worth it.
From what I've read and seen the Pre is worth using to it's fullest potential and can give great service when allowed to do so.
I'll keep looking and see if I can find something that suits my spending/usage habits.
If you think you're paying $80 to $100 a month for a phone when you buy a Pre (or iPhone, or WinMo device), then you completely, totally, and utterly just don't get what the device is.
Yes, you'd be dumb to pay $80 a month to talk on the phone. But that's not what a Pre is. It's an internet-connected handheld computer. Most of what you do on the device is data related. It just so happens that one of the cool programs that runs on that handheld computer is also a phone application.
Even limiting the use of the device to whenever you are near a WiFi hotspot is a gross under-use of the thing. For example, not too long ago I was on a road trip when one of my kids desperately needed to stop for a restroom break. There were no gas stations or restaurants in sight, so I opened up an app to find the nearest gas station. It turned out that turning around got us to a station in about four miles, while continuing on would have resulted in at least a half hour wait to get to the next station. (I'm an iPhone owner, but with the Palm App store ramping up, the same capability will be available soon on Pre, if it's not already.) Sure, that scenario may never happen to you, but the point is that a week never goes by when I don't end up needing to access data for something when there's no hotspot around.
(Another example: try using Google Maps to find your way out of getting lost when you don't have a data plan to load the maps.)
I've never known anyone who moved up to a smartphone who regretted the cost of the data plan once they actually started using it. The key is to stop looking at it as "a phone." The phone may be the primary function of the device, but trust me, it's the least of what makes the Pre a device that will change many aspects of how you conduct your life.
I have a couple friends with an Iphone as well, and they're perfectly happy paying 50$/month for the phone functionality alone.
Anyhow, I noticed that the recently released 1.2 update has an option to turn off WAN usage. I think I'll go for a contract without it, and in cases of emergency, bite the bullet and use data at whatever absurd rate they charge.
Thanks for the feedback nonetheless Darnitol!
Without data, I still have a device with excellent contact management, scheduling, apps, etc...and guess what, also works as a cell phone. It seems pretty logical to me...
I personally love to have data everywhere, but my girlfriend for instance uses a prepay and spends something like 50 dollars every six months on phone calls. She doesn't need a data plan and multiply by 6 her phone bills just for the sake of reading her email in the bus. But she likes the convenience and interface that the iPhone offers. So yes, she's using an iPhone with a prepay sim with no data plan. Is she missing out a lot? Probably. Does she care ? No. Is she spending her money smartly ? Absolutely.
Just keep in mind, there are other scenarios and needs than yours. So Caje, I think you're doing the smart thing in finding a way that fits you better and salute you for it :)
Couple other notes, webOS does not imply that the phone is based on some sort of concept or being connected at all times, its a concept of the entire phone interface being browser based and all apps running within that browser.. Genius actually.
One last note, you DO need a data plan to activate this phone.. But as my company was not willing to pay the monthly data plan, they got bell to add data for 24 hours so I could activate the phone and then remove the plan. So if anyone else gets a NO from Bell, I am confirming that they can do this with some persuasion.
i'm a student and around wireless ALWAYS. at home, at school, at the cafes!
this is amazing. i'm going to try to get persuade them because the phone is gorgeous.
it would make emailing easier without carrying a laptop.
a data plan doesn't really fit my budget. but one student offer does.
so let's help it does.
thanks prelover for giving us a little bit of hope.
I'm probably going to have to do an ESN change to get this to work on verizon because they don't allow activations without a data plan, but if I can manage that I'll definitely be using this without a data plan.
Right now I carry around a regular phone and an ipod touch, this would allow me to combine devices which would totally rock.
If you only need your car to listen to music, warm yourself up, make love in the back seat, and store stuff in the trunk, the answer would be - don't waste your money on tires. That would be the proper analogy.
What you are saying would make sense if the discussion was "I want to use a Palm Pre without a battery".
Nice try though.