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peterto

What are your expections?

With today's demo of Chrome OS and with its heavy emphasis on web apps, security, speed and simplicity, what are people's expectations?

A few things that I found interesting: you can only run web applications, as they've limited the ability to write to the disc drive (it seems they've limited this to SSD), the source is open, data is encrypted, no app store in the foreseeable future.

So my question is, how is this different from a good web browser? Actually it is different, you can't run your native applications and have to rely on the varied "web applications". Google needs to spend more time improving their browser instead of taking on a full fledged (gimped) OS.

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humedini

Sounds like something that would be friendly for a tablet or v. cheap netbook solution. I would imagine that this is not being aimed at the kind of people who would use a website like this for anything other than a 2nd or even 3rd machine. Struggling to see how this could catch on for business either at this time .. All very interesting though - I do have a serious fear of the cloud following the "Sidekick / MS / Danger" issues recently ..
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deinfinityx

I think you are missing the entire point of this. Ever since it was announced it was said that there would be no native apps and it would be a cloud based OS. I find it funny you call the OS gimped when you do not comprehend what it is designed for. If you think netbooks are cheap now wait until the Chrome OS ones start shipping. The most expensive part in those is probably going to be the screen. Chrome OS doesn't need huge GB of storage like every other OS, so in theory they could use a 4gb SDD which would be insanely cheap. I don't see these costing more then $200 at the most. Which fits into Google's MO of putting cheap web based computers into everyone's hands. Not to say this OS is for everyone but if you want a fast way to browse the web this will be perfect, cheap and reliable.

And i think Chrome browser is one of the most powerful on the market so how do they need to keep working on it?
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sam

I have to agree. I believe that what Google is trying to do here is getting cheap internet computing in the hands of the masses / spread information and access to everyone and anyone. First and foremost, this operating system is not meant to directly usurp the positions of power / market share held by Microsoft or Apple. I like to think of it as the first Linux-based operating system that may actually be embraced by the masses. (yay! :))
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brett

deinfinityx (im going to call you dfx from now on), I don't think he missed the point. That is his opinion.

I like the idea of the OS but I know it could only be on a netbook for me. I do tons of design work and I have to have Photoshop, Indesign, AutoCAD, Revit, Sketchup, etc all running...at the same time...and fast. Chrome OS can't do that. I would LOVE to have it on a netbook (Eee PC 1201n, please) so that I can do my internet related things as well as document creation and such but it would be completely limited to a secondary machine because I need to have all those full fledged apps at the ready.

I would almost rather have this as a secondary OS on my machine. Hopefully that way I could boot into it quickly and save battery for when I'm on the go.

Also, of course they need to keep working on it. It may be the best browser out now (I think so) but it still has some work to do with standards compliance and it still doesn't always behave like you want it to with certain javascript and flash protocols. They should never be complacent with what Chrome is.
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peterto

Though I do understand that this OS is supposed to be optimized for cloud based computing, it is assuredly not to be used as a primary machine for most. The fact of the matter is most people have one computer to call their own and they have applications that aren't web based that they still use and no matter how awesome Gmail is, it doesn't come close to replacing outlook and Google Docs has no where near the level of functionality that MS Word has.

What you also have to consider is if this is freely available for people and is Linux based, it will most likely have driver related issues for most, which is probably the number one reason why hardware manufacturers have not embraced Linux based OS's the same way they have Microsoft's, so from a support perspective this isn't optimal.

There is always room for improvement for anything. Chrome is a great browser, but it still has some nagging issues which keep it from being my sole browser, offline support is one of them (gears is still not quite there yet), theming and extensions support.

What I will say though is that this has the best chance of putting Linux into the masses and to makes cloud computing on a netbook ever more enticing.
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guscost

what if google was also working on an easy way to locally run web code with the same efficiency and power as native code? a language (go) and a web standard(ajax, flash) perhaps? then add to that a wine web app that is broadly compatible with xp applications, etc
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brett

I don't run any of these 'xp applications.' That OS is more than 8 years old and people need to get over themselves. All of my apps ran great on Vista and they've been running great on Windows 7 since March.

Some sort of a Chrome OS plugin or Wine would not cut it since I need all the horsepower I can get behind these apps. The concept of that is flawed because Google won't let you install anything with Chrome OS so a Wine Web App would be pointless because you can't just install something to the internet. Developers would have to rewrite their applications as web apps. Some of the more basic apps can do this just fine (see MS Office) but the more advanced ones like Photoshop are already seriously gimped when you're trying to use them on an internet connection.
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guscost

hence the "same efficiency and power" bit... of course nobody would even consider using something like this if it wasn't just as fast as a windows box, and completely available offline. i do think they're working on that, though, because their projects usually seem to focus a lot on speed.
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guscost

btw check this out RE native code and such:

code.google.com­/p­/nativeclient/
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sarchi

all the 'ol lappies could do with an upgrade/d'grade and easier to recycle
what if google found a way to clean the hard drive-bit of a tall order

there's going to be trillions of hard drives that are as useless as the first computers ..just saying
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