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toddjy

October 12th 2009 8:49 pm

Wonder when they'll release a single unit enhanced controller...

(I wish they had released it before I bought four controllers.)

I'm talking about a controller that builds the Motion Plus device into the Wiimote. They should have released the Motion Plus and an enhanced remote at nearly the same time, maybe having the MP come out second. I just got my Wii in August (wish I had waited a month). I bought three extra controllers at $40 each, and now I have to buy 4 MPs at $20 each.

(The second controller was bundled with a nunchuck and wheel; the third came with Wii Play (which we don't); and the fourth was a separate purchase. I've bought 2 MPs singlely, and I'll be getting the other two with the Sports Resort limited edition bundle when it ships this week. I would have gone with the Tiger Woods bundle, but almost no one carries it, and Kmart had Tiger for $40 bucks last week.)

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pixelauth

Won't happen, sorry to say. You won't see a new controller until the next-gen Nintendo console comes out. Nintendo's tactic this go-round is to make up the price difference between the other next gen consoles and itself a little bit at a time, with different pieces of hardware. (See Wii Sensor Bar, We Speak, Wii Motion Plus, Wii Racing Wheel, etc etc.) If it were just an emerging tech issue, I'd say that one is already in development. But Nintendo has caught on to how successful their piece-meal model has been, and continues to be. They won't be changing that when most all of their new customers are perfectly willing to buy their current controller with the Wii, and then collect the remainder of their hardware over time.
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coologuy1957

I see no reason why they wouldn't release an all-in-one unit eventually. This would be in addition to and not competing with their piece-meal model. People like us who already bought MP units and would like a more elegant version would have to shell out money again and Nintendo would win again.

That being said, I haven't read about one or heard of one being in development yet. They'll wait until we all have some MP's before double dipping with a sweet new unit... I got both of my MP units with games and you pay much less that way. You still pay a premium though......
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pixelauth

Here's the problem with your argument though: if they developed an all-in-one, they'd be highly pressured to include THAT with the console instead of their current controller, and they'd also be pressured to make the single unit cheaper than the combination of Wiimote and WiiMotion Plus. Companies that have duplication in their product line inherently compete with themselves. If Nintendo can develop a strategy to minimize this (by offering some "killer" feature that most people will want in one or the other) then I could see a world with both types of controllers in it. But there isn't an "iPhone/iPod Touch" correlation here - where is the killer feature that would set the two types apart?

Aesthetics? Definitely not. While the "oooh shiny" factor does help sell, it won't go very far without functionality to back it up.

Supplemental control scheme? That would require game-specific support, ala WiiMotion Plus. So no to that one as well, since it would just further fragment the game library with compatibility issues (which I think will be the bane of Motion Plus in the future, but that's another issue entirely).

Some as-yet-unseen technical wizardry? Possibly. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of anything that could be added to an all-in-one unit that would make me spend additional money on it. Nintendo would have to make it cheaper than the alternative for me to consider it, which would cannibalize their sales. I stand by what I previously said - you WILL see a new, all-in-one controller. In Nintendo's next console.
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coologuy1957

They would include the new all-in-one with the console and charge $15 for all the suckers who supported the system early...

Anything new is sought after especially in America...

It seems like every game will include support for non-MP and MP in the future, except for the standouts like Wii Sports Resort that came with it. They are going to have a crazy hard time with MP only games in the future that people get outraged about because they can't play them with just their wii-motes. Unless Nintendo makes MP the new standard and forces peoples hands, which could be a disaster like you mentioned.

The only fault I see in your argument is you think Nintendo won't try to make money where there is clearly demand. Ever since they ANNOUNCED MP, people have been asking "where is the unified/all-in-one version?" for people who are just getting Wii's and don't want the bigger/bulkier/uglier Wii-mote + MP version. Its an easy thing to make and people want less devices and less clutter which is the only reason it gets brought up.

Though wanting less clutter with the Wii is futile anyway.... :P
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pixelauth

Forcing people's hands is the most likely scenario, I think, and an unlikely one at that. With the investment they have in current tech (MP included) it makes no sense to go back to the drawing board anytime soon. The time to release an all-in-one controller for this generation has passed - if they wanted one, they would have announced THAT instead of MP. If they wait the year or two they need to before a revamp of this magnitude (to justify the investment), then we'll be into the territory of the Wii HD or whatever it'll be called. And it wouldn't make sense to release a new controller for an on-the-way-out system at that point.
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coologuy1957

They would never release a new controller instead of the add-on the way they did. This add-on is respectful to those who have invested in the Wii tech and sticks with Nintendo's family friendly ways. I just thought, and many did, that they would release the add-on and an all-in-one for new installs. The wiimote + MP simply doesn't feel right in my hand any more like it did when it lacked the MP add-on. I'm also assuming they will release an all-in-one controller because the Wii will coexist with the Wii HD like the PS2 coexists with the PS3. That model is appealing to Nintendo and consumers and it will be better if the Wii is not a on-the-way-out system for a long time..... Sony and Nintendo realize they can sell last gen systems to casual consumers and people who can't afford these new systems and game prices. Thats why I rocked the NES while the SNES was out and why PS1 and PS2 sales were/are still huge while their successor was out. I believe Nintendo is smart enough to recognize this and have them coexist.
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pixelauth

Ok, we agree here. I totally agree that the Wii will/should coexist with the next-gen Nintendo console - that's not what I was referring to by "on-the-way-out". I was referring to the fact that it would no longer be the flagship console. All the spec about whether or not there will be an OIO controller for the current Wii is just that - spec. If Nintendo sees fit to give us one, I'll be first in line. But I don't think they will.
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coologuy1957

I guess all that web chatter and people demanding one will be sad if they don't.... Its just more dinero for big N...
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tekchip

I think Niko did it finally. I guess it's pretty sweet, good quality and what not.
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