a special Halloween edition of the GTX 275...
Nov 3rd 2009 at 5:14AM...

Anyone?

ABS M1 $45

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Just sayin

While I understand that lack of any solid information might make people question the point of an article like this at all, I just wanted to point out that there's been very little information on this guy for a while, so a brief update on where things stand seems fair.

While no one who knows ATT and how these tend to go shouldn't have been holding their hopes out for for a "second quarter 09" release (like phone arena lists), I appreciate someone aggregating the latest word on just how far off it could be.

Anyone else wondering where all the LED monitors are?

You must need to piss like a race horse from all the cool aid you've been drinking. You believe that simply because the obscene amount of money he's getting isn't from taxpayers no one should care? The fact that A)The company is doing poorly, extremely poorly B)The company continues to lay off thousands of people, upwards of 10,000 with a goal to "reduce costs by some $500M by the end of the year" because of how poorly it's doing C)He hasn't even been with the company for 2 whole quarters

The divide between not just what the CEO and what the employees get payed, but the fact that they laid off thousands of people because they don't want to pay them, then they let him get this salary, and you think no one should say anything? That concept alone should bother you, forget the fact that he's doing this while the company posts a $2.6 billion loss.

Who are we to tell them how much to pay their employees? We are potential consumers. We are people that can choose whether or not to support the companies actions. So as a consumer I can tell them I'm offended by they're actions and I wont be purchasing your products or your stock.

How has no one mentioned that despite being released nearly 2 years ago virtually no companies have adopted the 2.1 spec for US products? LG amongst others are still pimping cellphones with the 1.2 spec, a 6 year old technology. The 2.0 spec which is the most common is 4 years old. No one should be holding out for this anytime soon. Keep in mind you need both devices to be the same spec to take advantage of the newest features.

Companies who took the leap and paid the price to lead with 2.1 got shafted. No company is going to move forward unless they're pressured to. If you wanted the updated spec you need to let them know you care.

I remember back when text was free. Then Incoming text was free. Then they gave so many incoming free. Then they started charging both ways for 5cents, then 10, now 20.

One important thing to keep in mind is both sides are getting charged. So in reality when I get a text message from chomsky, it's not a 20 cent text message, it's a 40 cent text message because both sides get charged. So when chomsky sends message (A) saying he's bar hopping with some chicks before his talk and wants me to come down, and I then send message (B) replying that he gets to crazy when he drinks and I don't want to be arrested again. The phone company just charged 80 cents for 2 text messages.

Yes I own the phone, and I assure you I've played with it well beyond anything it was intended for. It can be as feature rich as it wants, it doesn't change poor hardware and interface. I should have known better considering the stupid thing uses bluetooth 1.2. A 6 year old standard that been updated twice since. Of coarse this doesn't just effect the phone because any bluetooth product you use with it is automatically drag down to 1.2 standard. Any battery life, pairing, security, quality enhancements your 2.0 products have are moot because those benefits don't work with 1.2.

I don't know what processor they're using but it's terribly slow. Loading music library, picture viewing, gifs. All things my crappy old sony from 2 years ago can do much faster. Speaking of, why can that old sony, even with it's smaller screen, view text documents but this can't?

Stero bluetooth, micro SD card (some), voice activated dialing, 2mp camera with video. This is all stuff my 2 year old mediocre phone could do. These aren't "features", these are givens with even the bottom barrel phones now. As far as "multitasking" goes, that slowness I hit on is going to come into play MAINLY when you try to do all of these nifty things you mentioned. Scrolling is horrible, anyone who's used my Vu knows how frustrating it is trying to go through a long long list and select something. That alone has convinced anyone that's tried it that it's crap.

The shortcuts aren't customizable. When the last time you had a phone that you couldn't customize shortcuts on? I have to click through 3 different menus to get to things I use on a regular basis. Maybe you're used to phones that force you to make your own ring tones and sound files for alarms, but I've never had a phone that had a size limit on files for basic functions, I could just use any sound file I had on there. If you leave the phone on silent the alarm doesn't sound. How do you fk that up? Worse is, despite still pushing this phone neither ATT or LG plan any fixing anything. As soon as the phone was put out they were basically done with it. No extra themes, no more apps, no software fixes or firmware updates, just push them out, change the color and move on.

The only thing I got out of this phone is knowing not to buy any LG products in the future.

You seem easy to please so try not to take offense when those of us with expectations of a decent phone "knock it" because we're dissapointed. Glad it works for you and now you can get a new one in "wine", enjoy.

Awesome, maybe now that's 2.2 is coming out manufactures will finally adopt 2.1. While this "SHOULD be good news to manufacturers", there seems to be about year+ lag between when a new spec gets released and when companies actually start implementing it. A majority of companies are using 2.0 (4 years old), some are still using 1.2 (6 years old) and finally, recently some companies have pick up on 2.1 (1 year old).

So I look forward to seeing 2.2 products in mid 2010

While I'm sure there are plenty of people who are entirely happy with this phone, I tend to think anyone reading engadget wouldn't be. For your super basic consumer who doesn't expect much or plan to use many features it's a nice flashy phone.

For anything beyond phone calls, and texting I would recommend a different phone. I got this because at the time there was not much available. Now however there are a lot better choices and for the first time I may even suck it up and buy a new phone long before contract would allow carrier discount because this is so bad.

I was under the impression that they had discontinued this, so I'm both surprised and disappointed they continue to sell this outed phone. I know neither ATT or LG are ever planning on releasing any software updates.