So this is how the Matrix begins...

I'm not an Apple fanboy, but Apple is successful because they treat the iPhone like what it primarily is- a phone. MS needs to understand- a mobile phone is a phone first, and a computing device second. Say it again with me everyone- "A mobile phone is a phone first, and a computing device second." Feel better? I do.

>> 1) more control, (something most apple users don't understand or can't grasp) apple's prescriptive model is not for me or for most computer users based on the numbers (90% use windows operating systems)

I hope that doesn't mean we have to wade through 5 menus (with or without a stylus) to do everything. That's not the control that users want or need on a phone. Mark my words, all of that speed wont mean squat if the interface is crappy and full of cumbersome menus. This is a sure fire formula for Apple to continue to hand MS it's @$$.

When you are on a call, do you want to have to wade through menu after menu full of crap to do what you want? (If you even have the ability to navigate at all while on a call?) Man, I sure don't.

People using a phone want an easy way to make a call and find directions, or find directions while on a call. All with a few taps of the finger. It's all so dead simple and easy to do on an iPhone. Microsoft (and all other mobile phone user interface development companies) up until now have treated their phones like a little PC, forcing the poor caller to wade through mounds of junk to do every cumbersome thing. Then they have to wait for that hourglass to go away. Users hate this. (Or will, when they have their fast yet cumbersome WM phone and they see the iPhone's simplicity.) This is a model for the late '90s and it needs to die a quick and painful death.

I'm trying to be an optimist for MS, but they always like to overload the user with features that are hard to navigate to. What a train wreck for MS. I hope MS has learned their harsh lesson.

Bottom line is, nothing with the current Windows Mobile UI is going to be an iPhone killer. Go ahead and moderate me down; some of you may not like that fact but it is true.

While Windows Mobile itself has lots of great functionality, The UI needs to come out of the late '90s era and into the modern era.

Sigh... another phone with Windows Mobile. Yawn....

It's doomed, as are all phones with the same old rounded-off square button in the middle. Booooo-ring. *sigh*

It'll sell for the mere reason that it doesn't have that awful central "rounded square" button like every wannabe phone knockoff has these days.

*Sigh*... another phone with that "rounded square" button.

So, like, the superconducting Toyotas will be out in 2009 then?

Prokanda: Although I've never been to this particular school, I hope you don't think that the school is not "real" because it's Christian.

I guarantee that a semester of Hebrew composition will have you wishing for one of those "real" schools "real fast." Care to try it?

I'll bet you could accomplish the same thing with ARRRRRRRRgon.