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You are correct regarding upgrade. But you have to understand what you are getting. HP do sell ATX series desktops which are fullly upgradable. Of course they cost more and they don't have any crapped installed in it. What you pay is what you get

Let the hive mind of Engadget get that for you.

"What's the best gaming laptop for under 1,500 bucks? I had my eye on the P7805u (Gateway), but it seems Best Buy has run out for the time being. Also, as a secondary question, I like the specs on brands such as iBUYPOWER and CyberPower and the like, but are they reliable? I'm a little worried about buying labels that aren't huge like Dell, Gateway, etc. Thanks!"

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