@simbadogg wtf?

c'mon now... there are plenty of good things about the iphone that us owners can enjoy... and we know that fast updates are not one of those things. 300 meg download, then plug it in, then wait for it to load, then wait for the phone to install it, then wait for the phone to reboot.... and I have a plenty fast enough cable modem connection, a decent macbook pro, and a currently top-of-the-iphone-heap 32gig 3G[S].

psssst..... they know when you're lying!

=( *band - album - song.


could I have an edit option Engadget? pretty please?

@john... I'm not sure who you were aiming that at (and I'm glad that you're satisfied with your pre), but if you were aiming that at the iphone... you know the whole issue with multi-tasking is running multiple 3rd party apps in the background, right? for someone that talks about his superior knowledge and other people that don't know what they're talking about needing to shut up, you're pretty clueless.

I have a web page open right now on mine and I just hit the home button twice and a little transparent box with a track position slider, track forward/backward, pause, iPod button (in case you just wanted to pop back to the iPod interface without having to hit the home screen first), close button, the band - track - and song all pop up. right on top of my web browser... playing the music in the background the entire time. same for maps, notes, whatever. same for calls... it turns the title bar into a tap-able bar and I can go about my business accessing other things.

check on some details before you mouth off.

also, the pre is a VERY nice device (glad that palm is whooping some ass instead of going silently into the night like some fully expected), hell, I even told my roomie that was hell-bent on staying with sprint that it was THE device to get on the network and he loves it... but I've had plenty of time with it and it's sluggish on some of the most basic UI things... opening menus, pictures, applications because they rushed it out and the firmware isn't quite to its sweet spot. having said that, the iphone still doesn't have a flash or non-jailbroken custom text tones (which you have as of today)... so there are still issues there....

...but blasting another platform that (I have, yet-) you obviously haven't used very much, before finding out if you're even getting the details right is just asinine.

I wonder why they decided to mar those nice designer top covers with the power button.. they should have put it on the front, or anywhere around the base for that matter D=

isn't your icon from that article engadget did about some creepy japanese bathroom stall cleaner? /shudder

OH SNAP!

gawblessyou. most uncanny thing, it almost sounded like that sneeze was a sentence!

plus, you can plug in multiple devices. so if several people in your house have an ipod and/or an iphone, you could leave it in the den...

also, it's for people that have the money to burn on extravagant things. if you're complaining about the price, you obviously don't have that kind of money, which means this product wasn't being marketed at you.

I think you meant "they".