You fail at logic. Everyone uses profanity whenever the Hell they see fit, and just because you act like you would suck on Steve Jobs's cock all day doesn't mean they're losing an argument when they call you on that. You act like SJ's personal little playmate. It's a simple fact- all you do is worship Apple products and try to downplay all competing products, and no one here has been contradicting yourself. I'm not even quite sure you know what contradiction really is, considering your usage of it, but hey- typos... Typos are when someone adds or forgets to add a letter or misses a key on the keyboard... This is not you- see, you tried to take the word "illusion" and make it into "delusional" by adding a "d" onto the beginning and "al" onto the end. No, my friend, that simply is not a typo- that is simply your lack of intelligence shining through.

Judging by the looks of things, it's YOU who's losing here, not me or anyone else replying to you. You post a bunch of FUD because you're insecure, and then you get told, and you resort to changing the subject- and that is, simply put, a sign of losing.

So, you fucking moron, how about you go suck Steve Job's cock? Oh... Wait, I must be losing because I insulted you, right? Fuckin' idiot.

I wish I hadn't sold my Jeep.. My first car- a 1994 Jeep Cherokee 2 door with the 5 speed manual and the 4.0L I6... I had some M/T Classic 2's on there, and I think they're the reason I didn't roll it when I slid off a gravel road going 60mph... It was pretty damn stable for what it was.

What are you, 12? Are you offended by profanity? Cursing doesn't do anything except help express a point, unless, of course, that's all you use, and unless you're blind or your possessed and all you can see is a bunch of curses throughout my posts, then you would see that it's only a minimal amount. Then again, I shouldn't have to explain this to you, ya' child.

It's clear no one in their right mind agrees with you, Jubei, and if you would pay a bit more attention to people's responses, you would understand that no one wants you here or truly cares about your *DELUSIONAL* (see the spelling- you might want to take note of that) posts.

No merit in this post either... Crappy "drawings"? lol- OK, Jubei, master of art and everything gadget related.

"me-too"? Give me another company that includes laser engraved designs on the back of their products- more than just a logo and a line of text?

Zero public interest? Well, lets put that logic to use. Zune marketshare >= Apple Macintosh computer marketshare. That must mean that Apple's Mac is just a "me-too" of Windows based PCs, and clearly no one wants them.

Peel your eyes off of your Steve Jobs pinup and educate yourself, my lunatic friend.

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Guys, you really shouldn't worry about Jubei. He's really more entertainment than a nuisance at this point. I would say, if he even has a job at all, he works at an Apple store or some shit. He's never touched a Zune, used it, or likely ever seen one in real life, and that's one of the reasons why his opinions and posts don't count. Another reason is the fact that he doesn't continue an argument when someone stumps him. If you would look at his profile, and check out some of the other articles he's commented on, you'll see him getting told, and then he will stray from the subject in a pitiful attempt to insult the other members of the conversation/debate/argument/whatever.

I've actually bookmarked his profile, because it helps me skip past some of the BS Apple posts on Engadget whenever some new version of the iPod headphones come out or some shit, as he usually ONLY posts in Zune articles, Xbox articles, or Windows articles, or some other decent competing product's article... That and the entertainment value.

If the Zune isn't doing it for movie or video situations for you, then I doubt the iPod Touch would.

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Jubei, according to that little chart, that means no company makes an MP3 player that has any interest- other than Apple of course. Imagine that. How ignorant of you to use one study (maybe 2, but I wouldn't doubt it if this was the one Engadget had played host to a while back) as the sole determination of whether or not a product has interest or not... But by your standards, lets see how this works out- Zune marketshare > Apple Macintosh computer marketshare. Have fun with that one, Jubei. Maybe you'll continue to make ignorant little comments.

By the way, apparently you can't read: Z*E*U*S.:God =/= Zune God. I don't know, but it really shows your lack of intelligence.

Jubei, the sales and the marketshare of the Zune prove otherwise. There is interest in the Zune, and it can only grow, provided Microsoft is willing to continue to grow the product and introduce new features to the line, and continue to do it better than the competition from Apple. Obviously your grip on reality is slipping further- thanks for helping me clear that up, Jubei.

Hey, Jubei, before you spout off, you should probably do some research. Look at Archos... Oh, but no, the iPod Touch can't be a me-too product, because it's obviously a different shape... Oh, and it uses flash memory instead of a higher capacity hard drive... Oh, and there are many little details that make it different- much in the way the Zune is different from the iPod and iPod Touch. Quit with the double standards bullshit.

Go back under your bridge, troll. We've seen more than we want from you in the past week. Take another month long vacation.

No, I'm pretty sure they DEFINED the FPS genre.