Definitely looks interesting.

Psy - I think you missed the point. Neither I, nor Mr Scrip commented on the usefulness of red light cameras, but red light camera WARNINGS. After all, if the light is red, you stop regardless of whether some box warns you that a camera might be there or not. I still fail to see the point of the warning devices since it would, or at least should, not affect your routing or driving in any way. Who in their right mind goes, oh no! Red light camera there, I should take a different route so I can blast through reds and not get caught!

Can someone tell me why red light camera warnings are needed? I mean, it's not like they're hidden or anything, they're at... the intersection! I could understand if it were a radar detector to let you know where a hidden cop might be or something not obvious, but regardless of whether or not a camera is there, if the light is red you still stop. I doubt that anyone makes a habit of busting red lights as opposed to doing 10-20mph over the speed limit, so what am I missing here as to the value of one of these things?

Absolutely an amazing episode. The different visual styles, the music, the total spoof of the vietnam war movie genre. Both the Steve and the Roger plots worked great. Still one of the best shows on tv and it just keeps getting better!

As others have mentioned, the Tmo TP2 is 150 at amazon, and I just don't know if the 3.5mm jack is worth 200 bucks

Care to show me where that post is? The only post I have made regarding the iphone was bemoaning the fact that it couldn't tether which has always been a deal breaker for me, regardless of OS. The rest of my phone related posts have been about winmo which has been my OS of choice since the HP2215 (which I mention in other posts).

Please feel free to elaborate on how to
1) Easily and legally tether
2) an IRC app that works
3) get any of the LAPD or Fire streams on radioreference.com to work
4) have a native app for yahoo msgr instead of their horrid mobile msgr webpage or msn
5) a VNC app, any vnc app!
6) the battery life has been well documented on every blog, forum, and webpage
7) how to change SMS ringers and improve the volume
8) add a usb card reader drive or some form or removeable storage.

I'd love to know, but at least I got my credit back and aug 12th the TP2 will be out on tmobile, so that is something to look foreward to.

I actually returned my Palm Pre today after 29 days. There were a lot of things I loved about it, but in the end there were some major failings that it just couldn't overcome that my old nextel phones from 5+ years ago could do.

1) No tethering, either cable or bluetooth (though i saw a few workarounds, it shouldn't be THAT complicated)

2) No classic or released irc app worked

3) I couldn't get a single music/radio stream to work, which was a common problem from the forums.

4) No messenger apps for anything but Aim

5) No VNC app

6) Battery life was dreadful. I was barely getting 6 hrs if that. A day out hiking or running around and it was useless.

7) Ringer and SMS volume. Not being able to customize txt msg ringers was a major killer since I use my phone as a pager more then anything else and I had to keep it on vibrate since I just couldn't hear that sound.

8) no removeable storage or usb host. Since I cant tether, I'd have at least liked to be able to slide my cameras card in it and upload pics or attach a usb card reader!

plus other little things here and there, like not reading the album art of many of my songs, it just wasn't quite what I needed. It was a good phone, had a good mp3 player, pandora always worked well, and browsing the web was a great experience. But in the end, compared to a dumb phone with java apps, or winmo, it just couldn't do what I needed it to do. Maybe in the future it'll get there, but for now, I'll probably grab a touch pro2 when it comes out and see if that meets my needs.

Yes, windows mobile didn't have a microsoft app store, but let's not forget the major app stores it has had all along and the products it contains. PocketGear has 12527 programs under its software category, Mobihand has 2,517 in its software category (excluding themes and ringtones), and freewarepocketpc claim over 6000 free programs. And the best news? You can run more then one of them at a time!

I don't know, maybe it's something apple user specific that their base needs to be locked down in both software and hardware. Removeable battery? Thousands of apps? Ability to multi-task? Copy and Paste? App stores with easy mobile downloading? Bluetooth? Tethering? Multiple carriers in the US? Hmm, I've been doing all of that and more with WinMo since the first PocketPC phones came out in 2005.

Ok, I have to ask... Why would it be better with android? Would my tomtom program work better on android? Is accessing my corporate email better on android? Are the GPS/Geocaching programs better on android? What about the raw photo viewer/tagger/ftp uploader programs? Would my EMT flashcard and training guide program work as well? What about IM programs and IRC programs? How is the integration with office programs like excel and onenote and reading pdfs and chms? SSL abled VNC or remote desktop programs?

Does android even have it's own versions of these programs? I see everyone clamoring about how great android is, but no one has said why or how they use it that is better then WinMo or S60 or anything else. I'm sure its great for using gmail and google maps, but what about all of the other functions people need? WinMo never had a microsoft licensed app store, but anything I could ever want or ask for I've always been able to find from numerous vendors.

No, because the last thing you want is to be juggling a ton of cards amongst everything else you're carrying, traveling with, and dealing with. And if you have to hand off your photos immediately afterward in the case of a photojournalist, sports photogs, and others, its great to just hand off the HD with everything neatly sorted into folders to dump onto the main computer then have to sit there and put card after card in. Especially if you can say, check out so and so time is when such and such happened, you don't have to go through every single card to find that specific shot.