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I was using mine literally in the middle of the scrub last night, 130k w of Mt Isa to check rain with full bars.

And I was sitting in my friends house the day before with no bars and they did. Both phones o Telstra.

It's the network and how it interacts with the environment
Nah

the biggest scam in the USA has been the banks little charade to take all your houses and land and to force te government into effective bankruptcy to take control
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for the best thread ever on engadget
@kenny goo

Ohhh. And Australia, nearly as big as the USA with less than a tenth the possible subscribers paying for the network to be rolled out.

Economies of scale eh, nah. It's slackness. The problem in the USA isn't land mass or people. It's that you mob didn't start rolling out a UMTS/HSPA network until 2007. Australia started in 2002. You mob are 5 years behind In roll out plain and simple.

@jafoman

It's really a software upgrade, not a hardware upgrade so it's not so much an issue of how big the target country is.

Then again. Supposing you are in a country that still lacks a national UMTS/HSPA network and what network that exists is behind a few generations... Well in that case it will be a long time for rollout.

Thankfully this isn't an issue unless you are American

/end cheeky dig at the suffering Americans
Ahhh. Some of you mob seem more locked into marketing terms vs actual network.

4G is a marketing term, let it go, Telstra calls their network "Next G" and often inferred it was somehow better than UMTS/HSPA. HSPA+ which is an actual thing is already scheduled for +80mbit.

As for yer Sprint/Verzion CDMA/EVDO networks... Ahh sigh, I think I might leave you with yer marketed fantasies.
Yup Telstra is already running trials of 42mbit in Sydney and is in the process of preparing to upgrade the network software. Early 2010 seems likely but they will wait for modems that support it.

ITwire has a good article on it.
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