Meh, I have a fully running XP Embedded with enough functionality to run Opera with Wifi, from cold boot in 17 seconds.

I have a nLite boot thats about 30 seconds, which is only 5 more than this, and provides near full Windows functionality.

@Flashpo

Actually the PS3 gets more exclusives these days, and the generaly quality of games is much better, no Shovelware on PS3, just solid titles.

Yet again Microsoft hardware = turd.

360's problems are all design related. Dumbass/cheapskate Americans designed it.

Seems the clueless morons at Engadget could not be bothered reading the manual before reviewing, and did not know they had a calibrate the touchpad...

Seriously people go elsewhere for your news, these guys are retards.

???? Just get a PS3, it works, got Blu-ray, and better games... Jesus, aren't you Americans tired of settling for second best all the time?

Of course not. iPods also suck badly. The sound quality is abysmal, the build quality is questionable, and the itunes lockin is bad.

Console has to be PS3, it's reliable, classy and has great games (more quality games than the 360 according to IGN stats).

Portable player. The latest Walkmans are fantastic too. But then so is the Samsung P2.

Either way you spin it. The 360 is a huge white turd, and the Zune is a small turd.

Beat the crowd? He has has 3 years... 360 is last years news...

Not really, even at 150w, it's still a tonne more than a PS3, which is between 90w - 110w, in it's current 65nm/65nm configuration, and moving to 45nm very soon.

The big question, is will these 360s finally work? I somehow doubt it.. It's clear Microsoft havn't got a clue to make hardware, and Sony have a very good clue..