Pretty sure it doesn't have wifi or web browser.

I don't understand why some people are so anti-China. While I disagree with the communist government, it doesn't make sense to keep going on about counterfeiting and there is no need to resort to China bashing. Once poverty is reduced people will choose to buy higher quality products, after all Chinese consumers are no different from anyone else - if the price makes sense they will opt for the higher quality product.

But if you want to reduce poverty and thereby increase the potential market in China why would it make sense to price them out of using technology that can only help economic development. Enforcing the same IP rules in China as in the USA would damage economic development, and reduce Western companies future market in the region. I would imagine that Richard is right that consumers are already shifting their consumption patterns, but it's not going to happen overnight

Also as Chinese companies develop their products beyond mere knockoffs consumers in richer countries will only benefit from the increased competition just as Chinese consumers will.

Richard, stop staring at me - people are going to start getting the wrong idea :)

@ChineseMeizu

I think it is a bit unfair to compare Lenovo to counterfeiters, they do make some pretty good laptops which are not counterfeits (and buying Thinkpad from IBM does not count as counterfeiting). Also how can it be a counterfeit of a PMP when it is a phone?

A good quality product is a good quality product regardless of where it gets its design cues, so we should really wait until it is released before passing judgement.

I guess they do look kind of similar, although I think the s9 looks better. Shame the ophone doesn't seem to be coming out anywhere except China though.

Just out of curiosity, what are you looking at in your picture - seems engrossing :)

PMP with 80GB flash memory? I didn't know they were available yet

What do you have against flowers? Flowers are pretty...

You do realise it's not a commercial right? He's running out off a devboard, not a final product

Looks like an interesting project to compete with netbooks with reasonable gaming capabilities (Phantasy Star and Quake 3 on the same handheld gets a thumbs up from me)

Pretty sure the UK release date seems to be the 19th as well according to this

http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/MP3_Players.1/Cowon_iAudio.15/S9-16GB/Cowon_iAudio_S9_16GB_MP3_Player.3580.html

@Jimmy Jones
I'm not entirely sure what you think is wrong with my analogy - Nintendo limits it's software to be used with particular hardware, just as Apple limits the use of OS X to it's hardware. If I am mistaken in the analogy I apologise, but please explain my mistake.

Anyway, the difference between a monopoly and bundling is obvious. A company has a monopoly if it has majority control of a market, which for OS X is the general OS market (of which they have less than 10%). Bundling involves selling different products in conjunction with one another, sometimes the different products can be bought separately (albeit for a higher price), but this need not be the case and such bundling is legal. On the other hand monopoly abuse is illegal.

The simple fact is that if you do not want Apple hardware, you don't have to buy it and there is alternative software you can use. Apple, however, is not obliged to sell you their software to be used on other hardware. I personally do not like such restrictive bundling, but it is simply incorrect to suggest that it is a monopoly.

maximising profits is not the same as maximising sales