My god you people are crazy. How ANYONE could take this copy-cat vaporware lie of a video and celebrate Nokia because of it is beyond all rational thought. I mean, my god people. 8 months after the demonstration of the iphone and two months after it's release, we have a video of a device that looks identical. Wow. A video. The supposed actual rip-off will come out at some unknown point next year. Great. If you are celebrating this and bashing Apple in this thread, your are a pathetic anti-apple zealot... or you're just lustful of the iphone but can't get one.

Oh... and for all those proclaiming the iPhone as too expensive... have any of you looked at the price of the unlocked Nokia N95? I mean seriously. Oh, and btw, the iPhone data plan is subsidized at $20/mon for unlimited data. Yeah it's edge, but that still saves almost the cost of the entire phone over the life of the plan.

Just Unbelievable. And you call us Apple zealots.

This service will most certainly not succeed against iTunes, but that's not the interesting thing about it. What's interesting is how it illustrates the complete idiocy of the Zune as a strategic move for Microsoft. They went from being the software platform for everyone else in digital music that's not Apple to now a single device provider canabalizing their partners while not even slowing the iPod's growth.

Now, we're seeing these jilted partners fracturing the DRM landscape even further. So what happens to Sandisk and Creative? Will they need to license both Playsforsure AND the Rhapsody DRM system? Isn't that a FURTHER competitive disadvantage to Apple given that they have NO drm licensing fees?

So what happens next? Playsforsure fully dies along with DRM...along with Microsoft's hopes of building a profitable licensing business for media platform tech. Good work Redmond. Now, back to my podcasts on my iPhone, which the Zune STILL doesn't support nearly a year later.

It's great to see Apple shipping updates at the same time as everyone and with awesome graphics cards. Now if only the Mac Pro could get some of that 8800 video love.

Meanwhile... can anyone point me to a link on Dell.com where you can actually buy a santa-rosa laptop that's comparable to the Mac Pro? Their site remains angeringly impenetrable if you actually know what you want to buy.

I don't buy your post for a second. I don't know ANYONE that would actually stop using a product because their ads claim it to be better than the competition. It's obvious to everyone that these ads are NOT talking about the users, but using people to personify the computers themselves.

After this performance by Gates, dripping in bile and pure lies, I would think you'd be more interested in dumping the platform that gained it's dominance through illegal tactics and arm-twisting: Windows.

Wow, Bill Gates is just a lying, whining ass. Clearly he blew a gasket in this interview after having EVERY interview and EVERY review of Vista ask him if/why he copied OSX.

He's spinning such amazing lies in these two paragraphs, it's truly infuriating to think about how Jobs generally doesn't lie and yet is dubbed the "Reality Distortion Field"

Lets for starters all agree that Bill Gates never makes a statement in an interview without having prepared it. He's a VERY smart guy and I don't for a second believe he makes unintentional "mistakes" about the facts during the measly 5 minutes he has to hype his products on TV.

Now... he's been going around saying Vista is the first operating system to every include parental controls and how that's a major reason to buy it.... LIE. Tiger's had system-wide parental controls since it's release in early 2005.

Next... he tries to spin the Get a Mac ads to be about the users instead of the computers. Well.. um... the ads specifically say "I'm a mac.... I'm a PC"... NOT "I use a Mac.... and I use a PC". He's just twisting things and only the ignorant would believe him.

Next... he claims that security guys are finding "Total Exploits" in Mac OSX "every single day" and that Apple hasn't done as much for their security code as MS. Hmmm... Last time I checked, earth has lost tens of BILLIONS in lost productivity and support costs to Windows viruses in the past 5 years while OSX has been hit by...ZERO. Also... it's just a LIE. He's likely refering to the "month of apple bugs" which I believe has unearthed at best 3 or 4 "total exploits" despite the best efforts of these blatantly anti-apple guys.

Next... he tries to claim that Apple stole all the ideas in tiger from the PDC in 2003 where they demo'd longhorn (of course, their demo was in macromedia director, not real code, so it might as well have been science fiction). He goes onto to recommend looking up where the "File, Edit, Help" menu actually came from... implying MS didn't blatantly rip it off from the mac.... except they did. Bill Atkinson of the original Mac team developed the menu and drop-downs. They weren't a feature of Xerox's system. They were totally original and invented by Apple. So... yet another LIE from Gates... and he knows it's a lie. He was there, after all.

SO... all you ignorant PC yahoos cheering this BS interview should do some research. Gate is the lying master. He's been doing for years, whether it's just bald-face as in this interview or through false promises like "Plug and play" and "plays for sure".

Old post. Stupid autocomplete.

Apple doesn't overcharge. Macs configured comparable to Dells are comparably priced or cheaper.

OSX fully enabled and a fraction of the cost of Vista Ultimate.

iPods are among the cheapest in price/GB in the industry (hence the zune's inability to undercut them).

STOP THE FUD.

Good for Nintendo for calling a spade a spade. This repulsive class action suit is the perfect example of yet another trial law firm trying to freeze innovation and destroy the future while lining their pockets with 40% of the take and giving a pittance to the "victims". Anyone that signs on for this suit or any like it is an enemy of society. Grow up people. You aren't owed anything by anyone and being stupid does not make you a "victim". Grrrr... where's John Stossel when you need him?

Good for Nintendo for calling a spade a spade. This repulsive class action suit is the perfect example of yet another trial law firm trying to freeze innovation and destroy the future while lining their pockets with 40% of the take and giving a pittance to the "victims". Anyone that signs on for this suit or any like it is an enemy of society. Grow up people. You aren't owed anything by anyone and being stupid does not make you a "victim". Grrrr... where's John Stossel when you need him?

DP462090,

#1, Apple doesn't have a monopoly. You are currently able to buy music from a number of different stores and purchase countless other media players. Apple's price drop only works to prove the point that they feel competitive pressures. (unlike, say... Window's Vista's price INCREASES).

#2. Apple is dropping the price of the iPod the old fashion way: economies of scale. You know, the efficiencies that drove the cheap prices of the Wintel world's formerly beloved Dell. The iPod at it's current prices is still very profitable for Apple. The Zune at it's launch price is being sold at a loss.

I mean, the zune is selling for less than the Gigabeat S, which is the same damn hardware save the wifi. Toshiba is slitting their own throat, but at least they're making money on the Zune right? Well, ask nvidia how well it went for them and the xbox 1. I guarantee that Toshiba is involved in this deal as part of some pay-back for MS backing HD-DVD instead of Blueray.

I hope the Zune succeeds on its own merit and keeps Apple innovating and driving down prices at the same rate they've done so far. I'd like to see Apple license fairplay and finally put a nail in the coffin of Windows Media and it's "protect the Windows Monopoly" agenda. We shall see.