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Ben, everyone has personal anecdotal experience to share. Saying, "Well I haven't seen issues." isn't really going to convince anyone. I mean I had a great Dell laptop for years that never had issues and then I had another after that I returned in 3 months because of numerous problems. So what does that prove? Nothing.

Big John, Kernel panics only come from 2 sources... a faulty or poorly written kernel extension or faulty hardware. Just because you haven't altered your configuration doesn't mean the former can't be true. Computers can and do ship with faulty parts. Everything in the guts of a machine is volatile and often has flaws. Or maybe you installed some software that uses kexts - Parallels, Fusion, Cisco VPN, are just a few common ones that get too close to the kernel (in my opinion) and can cause issues. I'd check your logs and see where the panic is coming from and try to resolve it. It's not normal at all.
Jason, have to correct you here. The reason MS didn't just release a 64-bit version of Windows is that driver support is lacking. Windows 64 (let's call it) uses a lightweight translation layer called WOW64 to let 32 bit applications run in Windows64's environment. Although 32-bit applications can be run transparently, the mixing of the two types of code within the same process is not allowed. A 64-bit application cannot link against a 32-bit library (DLL) and similarly a 32-bit application cannot link against a 64-bit library. This may lead to the need for library developers to provide both 32- and 64-bit binary versions of their libraries.

So while you may not have any issues (as you shouldn't) you are seeing a subtle performance hit when you run a 32-bit app and some hardware companies have not written 64 bit versions of their drivers. None of these issues exist in Leopard and I think that was the point being made. This is why Windows still comes in 2 separate flavors and it's not all integrated into a single package.
Jason, have to correct you here. The reason MS didn't just release a 64-bit version of Windows is that driver support is lacking. Windows 64 (let's call it) uses a lightweight translation layer called WOW64 to let 32 bit applications run in Windows64's environment. Although 32-bit applications can be run transparently, the mixing of the two types of code within the same process is not allowed. A 64-bit application cannot link against a 32-bit library (DLL) and similarly a 32-bit application cannot link against a 64-bit library. This may lead to the need for library developers to provide both 32- and 64-bit binary versions of their libraries.

So while you may not have any issues (as you shouldn't) you are seeing a subtle performance hit when you run a 32-bit app and some hardware companies have not written 64 bit versions of their drivers. None of these issues exist in Leopard and I think that was the point being made. This is why Windows still comes in 2 separate flavors and it's not all integrated into a single package.
It seems pretty fair, but I'd point out that "32 and 64-bit support" is a little misleading and oversimplified. True Windows can come in a 64-bit version, but it's a completely different OS. 32-bit drivers won't install on the 64-bit version and any 32 bit software is running in a kind of emulation mode that impacts performance. On Leopard this is not the case - it's all in the same OS with 32 and 64 bit drivers and software running side by side with no performance impact of any kind. Worth noting.

I was also confused by Multiple OS Support. You mean that both OSes can run along side others? Is it worth noting that Windows can only do that with the help of software not included with Windows? Meaning you can install Linux along side, but it's Linux that's responsible for handling the boot loader and making it possible. And it can't have OS X next to it. Just a thought.
Argh! I meant "Oblivion"
I've put off buying a DVR - I use my Mac mini instead and I guess I'd be hooking this thing up to my Comcast digital cable box and forward it to a few computers in the house.
Call of Duty 2!
Let the hive mind of Engadget get that for you.
"I'm in the market for a new laptop, and I want a 13-incher. I need something with a great keyboard for typing, as this will mostly be used for note taking in class. I am absolutely smitten with the XPS 13, but I'm afraid that with its age Dell is going to give it an update soon. Any advice for someone in my shoes?"
 

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