john?

mint.com is great,
it automatically gets your transactions each night,
creates budgets for you, and has great charts and graphs.

it also automatically categorizes spending for you.

i currently use mint (on web and iphone app)
i also use cha ching (mac app and iphone app)
and squirrel (mac app and iphone app)

quicken 2010 looks promising
(i used to use quicken online and it looks to have similar features)

ibank is very functional, but the interface is so rugged.
not mac like at all.

sooo they are making it more complicated before they make it work properly. great.

get HDMI to work pleaseee . .
handshaking, incompatibility, and headaches.

yes,
but what about multiple users, and guests?
think about homes with 6-8 people living in them,
with guests over all the time.

thats the type of home sonos is marketed to,
homes with high traffic flow where you would
want music in every room . .

fm: "The only reason I can see is if a friend brought their iPod over and you wanted to listen to a song they had that you do not. "

exactly.

sometimes its just easier with so many people in a home to plop in an ipod and be able to access it over the sonos system, same with guests that come over.

its also quite a pain to connect multiple libraries . .


its such a simple feature, and so many companies
make two way docks (sonance iport over rs232 etc)

sonos makes it easy for people to play music in their home,
managing libraries is not easy for most people.
pandora, sirius radio, and fm streaming really helps,
but most parents have their kids load ipods up for them
and dont even have an itunes library of their own.

craig i think u misunderstood me ..

i want to plug an ipod in to the sonos system
and be able to access the music thats on the ipod
via the sonos controllers.

currently this is possible,
but in a very limited way.

sonos allows you to plug any audio device
in to the LINE IN port of any of the zone players.

this lets you choose the source via the sonos controller/software,
but does not let you see whats actually playing.

i want a dedicated ipod dock that will let you play whats on the ipod,
and will let you see all the artists, playlists, etc that are on your ipod
from the sonos controllers/software.

i hope that made more sense,
they have to be working on it.

so many companies offer two way ipod play/control . .


i also wish sonos let other 3rd party companies hook in
to the control aspect of the system . .

sonos needs to add an ipod dock that in turn adds two way communication
between the ipod and the sonos controller.

they have to add a way to play whats on your ipod and see whats playing.

same exact web interface as the AR ,
horrible remote.

i used to sell a lot of higher end nevo products . .
but after this i really lost faith in them.

you cant use two RF Bases in the same area,
(in other words you cant use two RF setups in the same house)
because they interfere with eachother . . they are not addressable,
and any command send will goto any RF bases in the area.

meaning both remotes would control both RF bases,
unintentionally . .

this is one remote per house and thats it.

f'n lame.

some people have poor experiences with the apple tv, its true.

but its a minor % that dislike it.

im in the home theater business, i have sold and installed over 200 apple tv's with my systems over the years. we usually get rid of the apple tv remote right away and use a solid universal remote (NOT A HARMONY REMOTE).

we also make sure the user had a dedicated mac that is always on. never a laptop. usually an imac with 2tb or more connected to it. usually with a collection of over 600 movies, tons of music, etc.

as long as the client has a solid internet connection (most important factor is the internet speeed of the home) then downloading movies should not take more then a minute or two before you can watch them without delay.

we also usually try to hardwire the apple tv to the network, and make sure the imac (or mac mini) is hardwired as well.

the only clients that have issues are the ones without a dedicated computer (pc or mac desktop), poor internet connections, and crappy networks.

my wealthy clients purchase and rent all day long and swear by them.

what about gokivo ?
its pretty good as well.