I have the same one for over a year. Got it on Black Friday 2006 for $129 no rebates.

Roger said, "I am sorry, I will NEVER go to such an event again unless they have those two things covered! The atmosphere just makes me sick - literally."

Stop your whining!! I went with friends from work. We drove from San Rafael to downtown San Francisco after work. Got there in time to get in line and got 4 free mp3 players. The mp3 players were not simply nice party gifts, but it was really a reward to the loyal fans of engadget that had to endure the tons of post of iphones and apple in the past two months j/k :@

Just having free food at the place would have brought lots of people because it was on a college campus. Fish needs to swim, college kids got to eat!

Giving tickets while people walked through the door would make many more people mad. Many people came to the event at 5 pm and started lining up. Then the staff and engadget started giving numbers out. If they waited until 7 when they opened up their doors to give numbers out, you would easily have seen like 20-50 people who came there late simply jump in line with their friends and walk away with gits that they didn't earn. That would leave a sour feeling in many people's mouth for getting there in time, just to be jaded because of line jumpers.

The problem with the meetup was not Engadget's fault. 1000 people came, but like 200 commented they were coming either by themselves or with some friends. Someone complained during the open mic Q&A about the situation, but like one of the Engadget people said, "Readers need to comment on the page so they can get a rough estimate of how many people are coming."

The place got so packed, my friends and I had to go out side and relax since we have been standing around for so long. Well, it paid off getting there since all of us left with free Sandisk mp3 players.

I guess Engadget learned from the mistake of Bestbuy, Compusa, or any retailer at Black Friday or new console sale; they gave each person numbers early to minimize the line cutters getting free mpe players because their friends saved them a spot close to the beginning.

I will be there with 3 friends.

I think it has to do with more with ATT than simply Apple wanting to make more money selling apps. If you look from an ATT business model that they have used in the past, they cripple phones functions, make you pay data plans that cost more than the iphone data plan, charge you monthly fees for apps, ringtones, videos.

I saw a third party program that made the iphone gps-like by using triangulation. Well, ATT and other carriers like Verizon would rather charge you $10 a month for the kind of service so they force the manufacturers to cripple built-in GPS chips. Also crippling blutooth so that it can only be used with headsets rather than sending files is another example. I think Apple might be hamstrung by their contract with ATT, although they can always blame ATT for the contract while still taking in a percentage of the monthly fees that ATT brings in.

I got a pre vista for christmas but with a free copy of vista premium when it came out in Spring of 07. So far it's great.

It looks much better than XP and it has some very cool although below the radar functions. One is the volume control. You can now mute or adjust each programs you want at from the system tray rather than digging through drop down menus from each program individually. There are some sidebar programs that are neat like the one that changes your desktop wallpaper every x minute or showing you how much ram or cpu you are using. Also syncing to my smartphone is better than xp. I didnt even need to install any drivers. Also for some reason the flash memory on my phone would take forever to send a large file to it. With vista, its quicker.

Vista didnt impact performance on my laptop that much. I was worried that battery life would suffer, but so far it is on par with xp. In fact I installed vista on my mom's computer which was a very old and tired computer. Although it has 512 ram and a pentium 4 chip, I took off all the visual settings and it works fine.

I see lawsuits coming if the new apple update bricks peoples iphones. If you were able to get the phone working after running a software code, then apple decides to release a update that makes your devide inoperable, then I think people will sue because it is legal for you to unlock your phone.

Apple is making all these speeches and interviews saying, "unfortunate that some programs have caused damage to the iPhone software." There's no damage. They want the public to believe them and think that unlocking your iphone is like installing a virus that does damage. Thus you created the problem and you might have a problem when your iphone becomes inoperable due to apples software update.

In for one.

This would be nice.

This would be nice in my bathroowm.