Richard D James != 'crappy techno'

Your philistinism knows no bounds.

A few points:

- Memory cards are now so cheap that you don't need to be precious about having them all in the same format. At $15 or less for 2G, how big a deal is it to have different ones?

- The Roland (Edirol) R-09 doesn't record to an HD. It records directly to the SD card, and has no built in memory of its own. It's a fantastic unit, worth considering. Anything significantly cheaper is going to sound pretty poor (assuming you're recording music).

- If you want Audio recording gadgets, look on musician sites, not a general gadget site. There's a number of competitors to the Roland - check out units from Marantz, Zoom, M-Audio, Korg, Tascam. They're all around the same price as the Roland though, and the Roland has great reviews.

- If you're only recording speech, check out dictation devices. Again, don't sweat which memory format they have - since memory is too cheap to make a buying decision around.

This is only a fraction of the support they promised back in Jan 2006, and then delayed without an ETA in June last year.

The training centre software may be a big deal for some, but Garmin's main business is general GPS mapping - and they still seem to be no closer to porting MapSource to the Mac.

Masource is required to manage Garmin maps, define routes etc. across all the Garmin range. Mapsource also has no good third party equivalent - wheras there are other fitness managers for the Mac.

Sorry Mat - but your post reads really inaccurately - it's only one minority interest product that they're supporting so far.