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This article states, "the Equus actually didn't remind us of the LS 460 in person." It is likely that you haven't seen this vehicle.

Also, most cars look like every other car. I do not know that many cars that do not resemble other cars. Such superficial statement is so vapid without thoughts or contemplations.

The article says "The Equus is brawnier, with deeper sides, a more pronounced shift in height from front to rear, and elements that stress its dimensional qualities. As soon as the Lexus left our sight, we never thought of it again in the company of the Equus."

But.. let's say, the Equus looks like the Lexus? I think the Lexus cars look like every other cars. In fact, Lexus follows everything that Mercedes does. Such steps have been well documented.

Can we get off from Some X car ripped off from some Y car? This argument is getting so old. It brings nothing to the discussion. This line of argument is so simpleton-ian and grade schooler thinking.

A lot of these people do not argue about the substance of the vehicle. Rather, they argue in regards to facade, something really superficial. A lot of people "judge" things by color of the skin, not the content of the character, the car. I think a guy name Jim is waiting with his pet crow to be friends with such characters. He wants you to bring a white bed sheet when you meet him.
facts does not support your thoughtless statement.
@Mason:

Hyundai cannot sell luxury cars? I think you do not know what "luxury car" is....

Let me quote it for you. According to Wikipedia, it says, "Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a vehicle that provides luxury — pleasant or desirable features beyond strict necessity at increased expense." It follows "The term suggests a vehicle with greater equipment, performance, construction precision, comfort, design ingenuity, technological innovation, or features that convey brand image, cachet, status, or prestige—or any other discretionary feature or combination of features."

The word luxury means,
"Something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort.
Something expensive or hard to obtain.
Sumptuous living or surroundings: lives in luxury."

Thus, a concept of luxury car and the actual luxury car can be sold by any automaker.

You do not have to accept the definition whereby you arbitrary decide what is and isn't based on nothing. You and individual like you alone define something that's different from the standard definition on no basis.

There are a lot of people who make claims to things without any support. They redefine definitions of something on basis on nothing. This is purely based on laziness.. but really, arbitrary claimers simply do not care about the truth or fact. truth is whatever they make out to be. Truth and fact get in their way of making malarkey.
I do not know on what basis people think that Hyundai cannot sell luxury cars.

Let us look at the April data.

Hyundai Sold 2,079 units of Genesis Sedan and Coupe.

Infiniti sold 4,930 last month out of 6 models. Infiniti G had 2,815 vs. Genesis 2,079. Hyundai does not even have fancy dealership networks. I think if Hyundai had 4 other cars, it could be at least equal to 4,930 figure. On average, 529 cars were sold per name car for the Infiniti other than the G.

Other luxury plates do not fare that well either.

BMW has 10-car line up. It sold 15,700 with names of various series: 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, X3, X5, X6, Z4, and M. So, per car, it sold 1,570 unit.

Acura sold 8,813 total; 3,105 for TL and 2,429 for TSX. That leaves 3,279 for other cars or 1,093 per car for remaining 3 named models.

Audi sold 7,010 out of 10 name cars. Q5 had 1,212, A5 had 680, and Q7 had 672 according to the report. That means their remaining 7 cars had total of 4,446 cars or 635 cars per named model.

Lexus had 14,195 sales numbers. ES had 3,549, IS had 2,324, RX had 6,237; that's 12,100 total for 3 car named models. That means, at best, LS460 had at best 2,085 number if other Lexus models weren't sold at all. Therefore, on average, Lexus remaining 5 cars had an average of 417 units sold. This is not whole lot.

Mercedes had 14,565 sales out of C, E, S, E, CLK, CLS, CL, SLK, SL, SLR, R, GLK, M, GL, and G class models, 15 models. C, GLK, and M counted for 4,274, 1,869, and 1,838. That means the rest of the lineup of 12 models had 7,981 or 665 units per name. Have some perspective.

If Hyundai can sell 0,000 Equus per year in US, it would be doing far better than most of other luxury cars.
A reason there is no review is because it's not out in US and the car is very new.

This article doesn't say the car is just as good. This is report states that the car is on US road, for testing if you cross read other articles. You are projecting your bias. This article didn't hand the success to them... No single magazine or article can. Just look at G8, it's getting canned.

You are not a Lexus "fanboy." You are a Lexus Malarkey boi.

Because, Hyundai is selling more Genesis alone than what Audi Sells A6 or A8 in US.

On March of 2009, VW had 1.83% market share that included Audi's sales number.
Hyundai/Kia had 7.87% Market share.

That's how.


Is this mean that people will start buying more Fusions than Accord or Camry. Does this also mean the Ford will be making more money than Honda?

I don't think this means anything.

When the Ford messed up the Taurus into fat jelly bean, their mid-size marketshare really tanked... and it never recovered. I don't know why people buy Taurus... other than to buy the Ford product or someone is really dired Taurus fan. It's not even cheap.

Fusion starts out msrp $19K.
Taurus starts out at msrp $25K

at these prices.. there are equal or better cars out there.

if they wanted the car to have a better gas mileage, they could have put 1.0L engine. it will be slow.. but it will have better gas mileage.. it could have had 0.8L engine.... or no engine at all.. maybe foot peddals.
I have VMWare/VirtualPC files on my thumb drive.
However,the access rate is very slow.

If thumb drive is fast enough, All I need to carry around is the thumb drive instead of carrying the whole notebook back and forth.

Do you think Hyundai buying Mazda is a good idea?

Mazda can really well tune Hyundai's cars.
If this car cost $40,000+, it's almost no good unless you want to buy this type of car. I like A4 but they usually have small problems here and there. They are almost like Jetta with better image, if that's possible for them. Both are very superficial cars.

Nearly fully optioned A3 cost $38,000.

You could get A4 without the leather, mp3 cd changer, ect... but then... why don't you just get Civic? It's at least $15K less.
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