Gotta love people who use bad grammar when they are pointing out other people's spelling mistakes :)

Well here's a few

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/15/tosh_touts_51gb_hddvd/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/11/toshiba_45gb_hd-dvd/

http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/video/dvd-hdd-players-and-receivers/blu-ray-and-hd-dvd/features/7-things-you-didnt-know-about-hd-dvd

I originally read about it on the TDK site. I'll keep looking for the article

A 50 inch isn't that big these days. Most people I know go for that and only one went for less. A 47. Unless they where buying it for a non-main tv

Again I ask. What's the limitation? I'm not disagreeing with you, but you seem positive. It can't be the decoder, we know that can be updated by firmware. So it must be something else. I'd assumed the rest of the electronics acted similar to a video card displaying the decoded data to the screen.

Dude You just keep contradicting your self. You say that Blu-ray supporters must be lying if they say they see a difference, but then say that you think HD-DVD has better quality ????

I tried to reply to your response, but it wouldn't go through.

I bought a Sharp Aquos LC52D62U right before Superbowl for $2600 a far cry from your $4000 and it's 1080p. I've known several people who've bought TV's since and the smallest has been 47" and it was 1080p( Westinghouse)

VC-1 was designed for interlaced content and has had problems with 1080p nothing major but was one of the reasons blu-ray hasn't used it yet. Even so unless HD-DVD ups it's capacity it won't be able to support higher resolutions in the future.

You do understand how they made the 51gb disk don't you. they added 2gb per layer and added a layer. The problem here is that the current hd-dvd players will not be able to support it. The reason HD-DVD players are so much cheaper is because Blu-ray requires a more complex lens for it's laser so that it can focus on more than 2 layers. HD-DVD uses a very similar laser to current dvd players which can only focus on 2. In order to increase capacity HD-DVD will have to use the more complex lens, essentially turning it into Blu-ray with slightly less storage per layer.

So what's the limiting factor I'll admit I don't know enough about the internal electronics to know if they can all be updated properly, but the decoder can be updated by a firmware and HDMI can handle the resolution.

I was refering more to the limiting factor of the size of the HD-DVD disk.

Ok what I don't understand is all these people talking about $200 HD-DVD players. Most of the TV's being sold today are 1080p( or 720p but why buy HD if that's what your going to get ), so why buy a 1080i player. To get a true 1080p HD-DVD player your paying as much if not more than a blu-ray player.

Also what happens when we go beyond 1080p. Your not going to convince me we're not in the next 2-3 years. HD-DVD is already running at storage capacity. What do we do then. Chunk all players and movies and buy a new format? Blu-ray players just needs a firmware update and they're ready to roll again.

It would be better with a remote control so you can record once you get out of the car. That way you can record the people like the ones who where in an accident with my dad. After the wreck they got out, walked around the car looking at the damage and then when they saw the police arriving they got back in their car and acted like they where so injured that they couldn't move.

I don't see where you cost advantage for HD-DVD's comes in. I see your point, but blank blu-ray disks are already cheaper than HD-DVD. You might have to shop around a little and wait for specials, but I've been averaging around $7 per 25GB blu-ray disk the cheapest 15GB HD i've seen was $9. Just go look on the web there's just more blu-ray disks out there.

You see this is where you see HD-DVD propaganda to it's fullest. Yes the current DVD manufacturing equipment could be easily switched to make HD-DVD's, but this equipment is already being used to make DVD's. Manufacturers don't have all this equipment just laying around just waiting to be used by HD-DVD. They try to run as close to capacity as possible. DVD demand isn't expected to drop, level off maybe, but not drop for at least a few years. The equipment needed to manufacture blu-ray disks can also make dvd's, HD-DVD's and blu-ray. It can also do it faster and cheaper. So if they're going to buy new equipment anyway why not get the equipment that can make blu-ray.

Blu-ray already has a leg up.

Overall storage capacity.

Also price now. I recently got a BWU-100A for $280 and I've been buying media. I've managed to get 22 25GB blu-ray disks around $7 a piece. Still to expensive though, with DVD+R DL going for around $.95 a disk. I plan to use the blu-ray to record the football games this year in high def.

I don't see why anyone who cared about storage would consider HD-DVD. The best price I've found was $11 for a 15GB and haven't found any 30 GB.

just answering your ? so not a flame, but mainly because why should they go to the expense of putting in the HD-DVD burning electronics. HD-DVD does have a few advantages over Blu-ray, but not when it comes to storing data. Blu-ray blank media is already cheaper than HD-DVD and as production ramps up it should drop faster. So there's not much use in increasing the expense of what will already be an expensive product.