How about all of the above... and why don't we have Nike+ enabled on the iphone... if it works on the touch, why not the iphone? I don't get that one either.

Hooray for the freedom to yell "FUCK" accross the inter tubes...

I like free stuff...

There were 3 things keeping me from buying an iphone... one was addressed with the 3G (GPS), and the other two were MMS and copy/paste. I don't have 3G where I live. I find it ironic that the iPhone 3G addressed the hardware shortfall (GPS) but after so much time, and iphone 2.0 software, i still can't do copy paste or send an MMS! I don't get it. Apple isn't going to try to sell me another new one next summer just to add copy/paste or mms are they... I'd stay away out of pure spite at that point! Seriously! How can turn by turn driving, which is inherently dangerous in nature, be a higher priority than MMS or copy/paste?! I just don't understand. I'm so confused!!!

(Newswire beeps...) This just in! Sales of iPhone 3G fall flat!

Ok so that might not really happen... but there is a pretty large issue that AT&T is overlooking... their target market.

The people that bought the first iPhone are going to be in large part the ones that will want the 3G version. Most of these customers are not going to be eligible for an equipment upgrade discount (that magical 199/299 figure) until 8 months after iphone 3G is released. AT&T's subsidized pricing (and most marketing in general) has always been,primarily, aimed at NEW customers. Most of the new customers they have to attract already bought the first one. That's their niche market. And this market just got the big 2 year contract shaft. The ball also got dropped here by Apple discontinuing the first model. I, as a current customer way outside of my subsidized upgrade window, would be much more drawn to the original iphone than the new one just because of the price. And, let's be completely honest here, the new 3G model doesn't offer THAT much more than the first iphone. Especially if you don't live in a metropolitan area that has a 3G network.

So will sales of iphone 3G do well, probably... you'd be hard pressed to find a much bigger bandwagon than the one apple drives... will it meet expectations... I don't think so... maybe after March 09 the sales will probably pick up... this is when customers that got the iphone at it's initial should be eligible for the discounted equipment upgrade (give or take).

oh and unsubsidized does not necessarily mean unlocked.

Most?

No. Most won't fall into that category. You have to be on like the last 4 months of your contract to fall into it... I've still got another full year.

MY question is... if AT&T is going to up the price to it's current valued customers if they are... "non-qualified" Will apple have to do the same thing at their stores... after Jobs CLEARLY stated that 299 would be the MAX price.... HMMmmmmmmm

Is there anywhere I can see updates top to bottom... like it used to be... I liked it better that way...

Waaaiiiit, wait wait wait wait wait. A moment of silence for the fallen Function keys... okay, lets go.

Umm... yeah, me... uh, me here. Not tryin to kill any misguided fantasies or anything but uhh... has ANYONE seen this legendary device of infancy actually pass pass through the great golden gates of the FCC? No? Yeah, I uh... didn't think so.

Any word on WHS support?

It'd be awesome to be able to hook this thing up to that instead of a computer and use it. Then I could stream my recorded shows to my laptop anywhere with a remote connection... THAT would be awesome!