I am very much interested in this tech. I currently have an asus 5870 as my display and a evga 9600gt oc as a physx card and secondary. I have this in windows 7 x64 and it works flawess up to a degree. I can only use fw 182.50 vista. Now the draw back I can see in hydras aproach is with direct x and open gl support. You see as we all should know each gen of gc's iplement new api and graphics standards.

In light it would be redundant to use lets say a a 7800gt and a 8800gt in union due to the differences of the nature of the designs. so in a fact I would say it is a better choice to keep it to where the direct x versions match. ie dx9-dx9 dx10-dx10 dx11-dx11. It just would not makes sense to hamper the performance of the more advanced dx version just so you can say "look what I can do".

I will add I love the idea of getting my hands nvidia dx11 part to add to my 5870 and hving all the perks of both cuda and stream as well as full dx 11 support with out driver issues and lockouts. (points finger at nvidia)Both companies should embrace this tech and AMD needs to get some boards out with the hydra on them.

And again mixing direct x generations can only be trouble for pefromance. To take full advantage of the tech keep it the same as far as the direct x generation.

Ok after reading all of the posts I feel a lot of people in the usa
are blinded by irrationalism. Ok First the FCC is not out to get
anyone like many of the comments from the uneducated in the art of
COMMEN SENSE.

Most telcom corporations if not all see us consumers as nothing more
than an account number with the means to help the bottom line. So it
is not in their best interests to give the most they can offer. Dont
forget most companies state unlimited access is gauranteed at around
x amount of speed. If they throttle it is it not then a complete
opposit of unlimited?

Third for you whiner a$$ policticos or just under developmentary and
intelligent thinking challenged spitting out " wah wah wah bit
torrent are only affected. boo hoo hoo only pirates complain sob sob
sob I dont want my elected officials to get in my deal" You all
really need to look at the facts. I have twc. I am a beta tester for
many companies and an avid gamer that loves world of warcraft. I also
have netflix. Now can you follow me.......TWC does in fact throttle
netflix WoW as well as my paid for download servicies like steam and
MSDN services. Hell the have even blocked the undermine wow server
entirely once. If iI did not have the means to keep them out I would
still be blocked. Why I dont know maybe they dont like that I am a
binge wow player but it happends. They also bricked 5 routers by
marrying a isp addy to the mac addresses so the could continue the
throttle. I had to fight them and involved...wait for it.... the FCC.


The FCC found TWC at fault and I got $1200 from TWC for damaged
equipment and the credits for over a 70% packet loss.

So I feel it is needed for the FCC to step in and do their job.
Companies out there are getting to big for their britches so to speak
and feel they can do what ever they want. It is time to put them in
their place and rimind them we pay their checks and income. The
people have spoken and loud enough for the FCC to take of notice
whats going on. It is not going to hurt any one but the companies
that continue to gouge customers for unreliable services.

So to all you nay sayers please go find your self a rock and beats
some sense into your heads with it.

If a doublle post sorry. Engadget has a crappy comment system.

Ok after reading all of the posts I feel a lot of people in the usa are blinded by irrationalism. Ok First the FCC is not out to get anyone like many of the comments from the uneducated in the art of COMMEN SENSE.

Most telcom corporations if not all see us consumers as nothing more than an account number with the means to help the bottom line. So it is not in their best interests to give the most they can offer. Dont forget most companies state unlimited access is gauranteed at around x amount of speed. If they throttle it is it not then a complete opposit of unlimited?

Third for you whiner a$$ policticos or just under developmentary and intelligent thinking challenged spitting out " wah wah wah bit torrent are only affected. boo hoo hoo only pirates complain sob sob sob I dont want my elected officials to get in my deal" You all really need to look at the facts. I have twc. I am a beta tester for many companies and an avid gamer that loves world of warcraft. I also have netflix. Now can you follow me.......TWC does in fact throttle netflix WoW as well as my paid for download servicies like steam and MSDN services. Hell the have even blocked the undermine wow server entirely once. If iI did not have the means to keep them out I would still be blocked. Why I dont know maybe they dont like that I am a binge wow player but it happends. They also bricked 5 routers by marrying a isp addy to the mac addresses so the could continue the throttle. I had to fight them and involved...wait for it.... the FCC.

The FCC found TWC at fault and I got $1200 from TWC for damaged equipment and the credits for over a 70% packet loss.

So I feel it is needed for the FCC to step in and do their job. Companies out there are getting to big for their britches so to speak and feel they can do what ever they want. It is time to put them in their place and rimind them we pay their checks and income. The people have spoken and loud enough for the FCC to take of notice whats going on. It is not going to hurt any one but the companies that continue to gouge customers for unreliable services.

So to all you nay sayers please go find your self a rock and beats some sense into your heads with it.

You know I may get another 360 now. I had bought 1 sys and it rrod 4x so I sold the last one in 07. I now fix 360s and mod em so I figuer I will do massive case and cooling mods if I do decide to go back in with the sharks. Now to another point. I love nintendo and all but after all these price cuts for sony and ms is the wii now long overdue for a price drop? At this point I feel the wii needs to be sold for 149.95 to still compete. I mean a 249.95 it is a no brainer that many who wanted a wii due to the price will now look more at the ps3 and 360 due to the fact are now in the same price margin. Come on Nintendo get on the ball and lower the price. Have you not profited enough to lower it to the below 200 mark that was initially promised? 149.99 nuff said.

Sorry to all but i needed to make that point.

Oh man!!! Fo once let me win. How bout if I bring to your attention that you put Tuesday July 14th as the date???? What is with that?

OK now am I the only one that thinks this is the franchise that rips of people the most? Rock band as well. This is rediculous that they sell this crap at exsaperated prices for what in fact should be sold as an add on from psn or xbox live for 10 -20bucks.

I mean come people has are civilization become so retarted that paying full price from 60 - 180 for updated crap that should be add on packs. Since day one I thought these type of games were just gonna churn out crap after piss. These franchises are a joke and really need to be sold as add ons not full fledged games.

Sorry to all of you fake pretend musicians but if I hurt your feelings or you get mad at this comment I just don't give a rats ass becuase you are dumb enough to pay full game price for what???Extra songs and features that can be added as an update or add on?? Think about it. Are these game really worth what they are asking you to pay??? I predict in not more than 4 months another rock band and guitar hero will come out and the mass of morons will flock to the stores to pay more for the same tired out garbage.


All of these simon esque music title just need to fade away already and die.

If you really want to fix the economy we all ne to be open minded and write our congressman and rep. and to finally get cannabis legalized. It could do so much not just for the economy but the environment as well. We could us hemp paper instead of wiping out forest after forest just so people can get their next fix of the "fanatical inquirer" .

You can even use hemp cooking oil which is healthier and even check it out the seeds contain one of the highest amounts of protien in just one seed. Clothing and hygenic products as well.

So in end result. Jobs ,products made us style which use to be good quality, and save some trees and help create more oxygen. Cannabis is an herbal weed so it grows fast so you can grow several crops in a year. It grows faster than soy and corn.

arkweld.....have you even ran vista?? While it shaped up to be "alright" it is really crap. It is a resource hog and has to large of a footprint. Win7 is a smaller install, is able to perform well on lower end machines and is just plain snappier than vista. I ran vista from the beta stages till now and I have tried all iterations of 7 and while the earlier builds we a lil buggy vista was worse. not mentioning that as it is now 7 is by far a better choice that vista. Windows 7 is in fact a viable option and it is nice that I dont have any bsod's and other errors like I did with vista at first up until sp 1 was released. So arkweld how about trying the software for longer than a second before you say it is the same as vista for t is not the case. Hell as it stands for me I feel that win 7 is even faster than xp. Vista was just crap and if I was not a gamer I would not have ran it but windows is where the games are at on pc.

I will say win7 is most impresive. I was able to install win7 on an old g vaio. with a p4 3.0Ghz and just 512 of ram ddr400 and an ati radeon x1600 pro. It actually ran well. Though after moving up to 1GB of ram it was even better. I could not have even hope to get the results I got with vista. I could not even run vista due to the soundmax and intel 915 chipset driver issues. I really did not have much hope for win7 on it but it works ... well great.

I also installed on my amd machine specs: x4 940 3.503 Ghz and 2034ht 226busx15.5multi ,4 GB OCZ Platinum pc2 8000 and anvisiontek ati hd4870 512mb 800/960(I flashed the bios to the asus oc board), all my games run, open gl is fixed and even all the emus run fine. I was suprised how well the ps2 emu did. win7 even works better with my m3a32mvp deluxe wifi mobo. It recognized the wifi card.

I just wanna weeeeen!!!!!