I'll YOINK that thank you very much

Reminds me of the Tivoli Kloss Mark Series. As pretty as this is, I don't need any more old-school table radios.

You all do know that MS isn't the hardware designer for this, right? MS does the OS. Intel does the chip. 3d party manufacturers make the hardware. Result: You don't like that design? Buy a different design from a different manufacturer (or a different model).

That's the problem with MacHeads... they can only think in 1 dimension (Apple puts the "mono" in monopoly that does it all)

17. "whats with the mac geeks? Yes this is a pro notebook for business use not a toy. lol"

Better word processor/presentation software than Windows
Better web browser than Windows comes with
Better security than is standard on Windows
Simpler UI than windows

All better for business use. I'm not sure which part of it is a toy."

Welcome to the real world, friend:

Better word processor/presentation software than Windows - Yes, because everyone I know complains about attending Keynote presentations. Sorry, Powerpoint owns the market. Jobs was a genius for allowing MS to conquer yet another branch of the business market.

And what word processor do you use? I use Word, also the market leader because of ease of use. I understand that there is a Mac version that Apple begged MS to continue.

Better web browser than Windows comes with - And Firefox is better that IE and Safari. Nice qualified language, fanboy

Better security than is standard on Windows - I have a hardware firewall built into the router and I have anti-virus software that runs and updates in the background. Never been hacked. Never had a virus. Once again, I like that you realized you had to qualify your language to make your faulty claim.

Simpler UI than windows - to you perhaps. To someone who either has minimal computer exposure or has been using Windows for a decade, your anecdotal claim based upon your own personal experience is worthless.

All better for business use - The best thing for business use: affordability. Take 100 workstations and do the math. And that's just the hardware cost. XP licenses are cheaper because you get the point upgrades for free (SP1,SP2). What's Apple charging for point upgrades now? $100 a piece? Do you get bulk discounts? Sorry, from a cost benefit analysis, MS wins.

Re: The Siemens book - aimed at a prestige class. As far as other Lifebook's go, mine is 2 years old, has a P4 2.8 chip and still gets 2.5 hrs. of life on a charge. Not bad for $1,500 in 2004.