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If it were me, I would have bought the Best Buy guarantee. Then I could have either hit them over the head with it or thrown it on the ground. If I ain't gonna get it neither are you.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
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Why background checks on the honest people WHO WERE ROBBED! What would a background check have accomplished on the people who bought and then were robbed? Nothing.

Background checks don't stop criminals, it just inconveniences honest people.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
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If something is in short supply, it's price increases as demand increases. It's not Microsoft's fault that people have no morals and commit crimes over something so stupid!]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/"and well-meaning sites like ours will be accused of inciting all sorts of nastiness and mayhem a la Marilyn Manson and Black Sabbath."

Well ain't ya? Ain't ya? And proud of it? Ha-ha-ha!

Don't act so innocent, Engadget! You know you love it.
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However, look at MS's stock price- it's flat! The traders and investors know this was a ploy by MS and are more concerned with the reported defects with the machine and the fact that MS will continue to lose money on the Xbox (MS cost is ~$550US/console to make). If the Xbox was an instant hit, and a must have for Christmas, their stock would soar. Xbox has fizzled. BTW there are a few million 360 machines sitting in warehouses right now.

Things like this sure reveal the fools though, both in the public and media!]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
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If you assume that most hardcore gamers either pre-ordered (in which case they now own an Xbox 360, or if they were screwed, can pretty much do nothing about it) or were waiting in line on launch day and got one, then once the Christmas season is over, the real mass market - Parents - will no longer have any incentive to buy this console.

Granted there will always be some that will fulfill their spoilt kid's wishes no matter what, but even these are in limited numbers.

To sell millions you need general consumers caught up in the buzz, and this has certainly happened. But if you're told that the $400 burning a hole in your pocket won't be needed until the end of January or February, then that $400 will be spent on something else.

So it's in Microsoft's interest to do two things. First keep re-stocking stores on a weekly basis, and secondly inform the public that this is what they will be doing (and if you carefully read the news, you will find that this is their plan, to the letter).

They know full well that shortage scare stories may cause a mass sell out on day 1 - but also will actually deter some people from holding onto the money set aside for this purchase.

Once Christmas is over, most parents will simply wait until next year to make this purchase, even buying one of the older consoles to tide their kids over until next year.

Even $300 is hugely extravagent for any special ocassion except the big one - Christmas.

Also parents don't care. They're not hardcore gamers, and although they may want to spoil kids rotten once a year, they will see no harm in waiting until all three next gen consoles are in plenty of supply - next Christmas being that time as the other two are due in the Spring, and that leaves 6-9 months for the frenzy to fade and for stores to settle back down to selling regular numbers - about 10-20 a month.

So if you missed out on Nov 22nd, I guarantee that by next week new shipments will arrive, and if these sell out, the following week and so on until Dec 25th. After that you have the January sales.

After the first week of January passes the hype will be over, and more importantly for Microsoft, the demand for their product.

Sure they'll still sell thousands, but not tens of thousands, at least not until another major gift buying occasion comes around.

If they make 3 million units prior to Christmas and actually get them into the stores, they will have done what they promised. But notice that for the six months after that, they only anticipate selling between 1.5 and 3 million more - worldwide. This means they fully understand they need to take advantage of this unique opportunity (as Sony did with the PS2 launch, but somehow screwed it up due to component problems).

So I am not particularly concerned that I missed standing in line for 24 hours - and thus getting the prize, and certainly won't be over-bidding for this console on eBay - it just doesn't have enough enhancements over existing systems, and the games are just not good enough yet.

If one becomes available on a Saturday afternoon while I'm wandering around Best Buy, and I've still got $400, then my kids will get a great Christmas. If not they'll get something else, in fact probably have a better Christmas, because $400 buys a lot of gifts.

I don't mean to disparage what is probably a great console, but it seems to me that the PS3 and Revolution have more next generation features than the 360. Much of what this can do my kids can already do on their PC - but you can't play Bluray disks on a PC yet (unless you happen to be a hardware engineer for Sony or something) and you can't get cell processor computers.

But this shouldn't take away from what is an excellent product, and probably worth the $300 for the core unit, maybe even the $400 for the premium.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
Let's say 80 Xbox 360 fit on a pallet and a Truck can hold about 22 pallets. That is a total of 1760 X boxes. Retail right now is $399 to total $702,240. Sell them for $2000 for a total of $3,520,000 Profit over regular retail $2,817,760. So, almost 3 million profit on ebay and buyer pays shipping.

Hell, if I was Bill I would stash 5+ truckload and sell them all on ebay at $2000.00 and release a few every hour.

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Also, an empty delivery truck was jacked, and later it was filled with more Gizmondos.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
Bottom line for Bill is that he wants his limelight back from Jobs. Xbox needs hype a la iPod. Media and M$ are doing whatever they can to get it - even if that means (i) releasing the product earlier than the competition; (ii) releasing a thoroughly buggy product; and (iii) releasing relatively small quantities of the product at a time of seasonally high demand.

This is all great PR for M$...it's keeping them and their product in the media - everyday.

-pimp]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
i live in rochester, ny, and what i heard of the story was that some guy beat up another guy and pushed around his girlfriend, even though, both parties involved (victim and assaulter) had vouchers for the 360. he thought the guy was cutting in line. man who beat guy flees the scene before cops show up.

problem being, he dropped his voucher. 2 hours later the store calls him from the info he gave them when he got the voucher, to tell him that they have a 360 on hold for him. he shows up. police are waiting and arrest him for assault.

i can't believe the violence that goes on for electronics. much less when you have a peice of paper gauranteeing you one, and you beat up a guy because he might get his 3 seconds before you get yours.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
"I hate people who make life so much harder on the rest of us law-abiding citizens."

on a larger scale of immorality stealing an x-box doesn't even compare to what goes on legally in america every day.

"these are all 17 yr old kids who think that grand theft auto is an accurate depiction of real life."

Yes Jack Thompson, I remember the good ol' days back before GTA was released, no one even knew what stealing was! before GTA 17 year olds were incapable of committing a crime, I'm sure the kids in columbine traveled in to the future, stoll an x-box, played GTA with it and then traveled back in time and shot up their entire school.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
http://www.smashmyxbox.com]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/I looked at this thing on the floor for a week as the promo model was on display. Honestly, I saw nothing special about it that made me want to go right out and shell out 400 bucks. Sure I might be inclined to get one, providided they get those hot disc and crashing kinks outta the way. But no time soon. Its not important enuff for me to be the first on the block to have one and they games aren't the innovation they were hyped to be. I mean damn same ol same ole.
In closing if you got one more power to ya. if you didn't don't fret cause I don't think a little waiting will hurt you. more are on the way. Just hope your expectations aren't dashed by the reality of it all.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
This is a parody of a 360 fanboy message and not meant to be taken seriously, especially my bad suburban pre-teen gangsta-wannbe patois.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/
In that context...

I bet it's just a sales pitch. People want these things so bad they steal to get them. What better PR is there?

Hehe.]]>Dec 19th 2005 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/23/xbox-360-brings-out-the-worst-in-people/Dec 19th 2005 2:38AM