http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/ Engadget Comments for RIM judge doesn't order shutdown, mulls final decision http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://sybarites.org/2006/02/24/blackberry-saved-but/]]>Feb 24th 2006 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/judgment-day-arrives-for-rim/#comments

CALLED.]]>Feb 24th 2006 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/
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Jeez Louise...people will find some other way to feed their 'Gotta check my inbox every 2 minutes' addiction. Let's get some real competition in the market and shut down the monopolys.]]>Feb 24th 2006 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/Feb 24th 2006 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/Feb 24th 2006 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/Feb 24th 2006 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/
If NTP was smart, they would just go away and lick their wounds. THe judge also needs to be reprimanded for refusing to take into account some of the earlier patent rulings.

I am not a blackberry user.
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Also, bear thee in mind that rejections by the patent office mean next to nothing, both in the trial and for the validity of the patents. Rejection just means that the patent office is challening the applicant to prove the merit of their patents, and 90% of the time they are subsequently reapproved. NTP only needs one valid patent for them to win, and they have around seven that are applicable, so the odds are monumentally in their favor.

Moreover, the judge seems to be pretty irritated with RIM all around. I'm told that the only time he was taking extensive notes was when the paperwork needed to obtain an injunction was being discussed, and the rest of the time he spent looking annoyed. This isn't solid evidence, of course, but it all points to RIM getting smacked, with victory extremely unlikely.]]>Feb 24th 2006 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/
So, you're saying that the "final rejection" of one of the patents is not, in fact, final? I think that you may be confusing a re-examination and a rejection. Also, the court case involves five patents. The four remaining patents have had a re-examination followed by a non-final rejection.

You mention the 90% figure as if the patents in question are random. They're not random patents, we can read them and see that they are silly. The PTO is fast tracking their review of the remaining four patents of the five relevant to this lawsuit - and it seems that even NTP's lawyers don't claim anything beyond "they're valid now, and nothing else matters."

I really don't think that your interpretation is consistent with the facts. The judge sounds irritated with everybody.]]>Feb 24th 2006 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/
I can understand the judge's position that at the time of the jury verdict, RIM was infringing, so damages should be awarded on those grounds. However, to issue an injunction at this point, especially in light of the shaky ground the patents are on, seems fairly stupid.

And for those railing against RIM, remember that it was NTP that decided that $450 million was not enough. This could all have been settled long ago, but for greed. As much as I can see the fairness in NTP receiving the initial damage figure after the original trial, I really hope they get nothing at this point.

No matter how much money RIM has, it is a corporation with employees, manufacturing costs, advertising costs, etc. It's not a handful of people sitting on piles of cash ala Scrooge McDuck. NTP is a couple of people sitting on some patents. To try and milk more than $450 million is, while understandable from a greedy bastard perspective, just ludicrous.]]>Feb 24th 2006 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/
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Anyway, perhaps I'm confused about the sort of rejection this is. The substance of my post is based mostly on a conversation I had with a patent attourney who has been following the case, whose opinion I would expect to be accurate, but may not be.]]>Feb 25th 2006 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/Feb 25th 2006 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/rim-judge-doesnt-order-shutdown-mulls-decision/
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