http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/ Engadget Comments for Palm prepping its own Linux-based OS http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Apr 10th 2007 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
-or the fact that OS 5.4 already exists and is easier to work with then having to develop something from scratch?

What universe do these folks live in? What time line?]]>Apr 10th 2007 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
They've already lost a lot of people by propping up the dead horse that is Garnet.]]>Apr 10th 2007 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
$600+ for a device that needs to be rebooted more often then a Windows 95 box is unacceptable. (Bluetooth devices have issues reconnecting after a disconnect).]]>Apr 10th 2007 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Apr 10th 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Apr 10th 2007 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Apr 10th 2007 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
Seriously, I thought Palm announced and has been prepping Linux for years? At this point, with their stagnation and fracturing (650,700w,700p), I'd rather see Access take a crack at it and release it before I'd see the Palm folks release too little too late.]]>Apr 10th 2007 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9351/palm-announces-new-linux-based-mobile-platform/

"Colligan also revealed that this was a new platform that Palm has been working on, in house for a number of years. He stated that Palm would not license this new OS to outside hardware companies, meaning this will be a Palm exclusive platform.

This is a separate project from Palm Inc and is not related to the ACCESS Linux Platform, which is being developed by ACCESS, formerly PalmSource. Many of the technical software and hardware details have yet to be announced. "

I'm with Ray. Palm hasn't had a good track record for OS development since their initial PalmOS 3 and maybe 4. I reboot my Treo 650 nearly as often as I do my HTC Wizard running WM5AKU3.3 ...neither PalmOS 5 or WM5 are great at memory management or cleaning up processes. I'd rather see Access release their own Linux, maybe with Quartz?]]>Apr 10th 2007 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Apr 10th 2007 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
Regarding reboots- I have to say the 700wx has not needed a reboot for me more than once in the 10 months I've owned it. I have to give credit where credit is due- we always joke about rebooting windows and now Palms, but in this case, a windows mobile Palm has been very reliable. Just wish it had a better screen and went on a small diet ;)]]>Apr 10th 2007 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
WITH A LINUX BASED OS SOFTWARE VENDORS WILL BE ABLE TO PROGRAM ALL KINDS OF SOFTWARE TO INCREASE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THESE PHONES AND WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE OVERHEAD AND HARDWARE REQ.S OF WINDOWS OR THE SINGULARITY THAT IS SYMBIAN.

BEST MOVE PALM HAS MADE IN A LONG TIME.]]>Apr 10th 2007 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/

Yip-dee-doo.

With this OS, these are the best headlines we'll be reading even a year from now.]]>Apr 10th 2007 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Palm should be ashamed.

The news they'll bundle and support ChatterEmail
is great. It's my email of choice -- it's very good
stuff.
]]>Apr 10th 2007 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
Every few years just about every hardware and software vendor pre-announces some Linux thingy only to see how much Microsoft will pay them off (again). ]]>Apr 10th 2007 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
Most importantly, they have to release a windows-based blackberry knock-off, and something more along the lines of enV, and then something Windows-based closer to the Iphone.

In other words, now that they've announced this, it's irrelevant. They should release it to the community and make sure that it runs on their hardware and stop investing in this. They can't support this software, it's a distraction for a company that can't afford to release innovative new hardware every year. The cell industry has left them behind and they need every penny to have a prayer to catch up.

I LIKE palm and the palm OS. They're great, and it's a terrific software scene. But this is a business, and the dollars and cents don't lie. They don't have to be Samsung but they can't afford to be Amiga.]]>Apr 10th 2007 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Apr 10th 2007 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
Linux does many things better, and in the mobile market it has a place to shine, as it isn't encumbered by that whole "It doesn't support games" excuse that most users who complain about windows, but refuse to try Linux, spit out.

But, it's important to remember that the vast majority of the strength that Linux enjoys now (compared to a few years ago) is due to community involvement. While there are many embedded projects that keep their source behind closed doors until release time comes, if you haven't got it nailed down in 4 years, perhaps it's time to think of a different course.

Drop it, or seek community help. Or simply bleed yourself dry, if you want to, I guess.]]>Apr 10th 2007 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
Considering WM 5/6 suck big donkey nuts, yes. My 650 is rock solid. WM is a POS in all apsects - UI (Start menu on a mobile, get real), reliability and robustness.

This news is great!]]>Apr 10th 2007 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/>"TOO LATE? YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDED."

Yes, but at least we know how to disable our Caps lock. ]]>Apr 10th 2007 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/but
"...and does not plan to license it to other manufacturers."

I hope they've read the GPL.
]]>Apr 11th 2007 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
"This news is great!"


Yeah, have fun being alone with your "if-it-ever-manages-to-exist" palm-linux device that no one cares (or will ever care) about.
]]>Apr 11th 2007 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
XDA Developers:
http://www.xda-developers.com/

Linux PDA Showcase:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8728350077.html]]>Apr 12th 2007 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.grack.com/programming/misc/TreoLinux.html]]>Apr 21st 2007 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/Apr 21st 2007 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/
Someone also mentioned the paradox situation of Palm making it a 'closed' system without licensing it, yet the inherent open source situation of working with Linux. I'm thinking the enforceability on this comes with the Palm UI, the layers in between the apps and the OS that are basically not Linux extensions, but Palm-owned source code that allows the unit to feel, function, act in a manner that delivers a Palm flavored user experience. What's an OS? Memory management, file management, bus management... a couple other things... but the core isn't really all that much.. so whether it's open or not... Palm can lock down it's implementation of the layers that ride on that core.

Cheers.. PS... I currently run with a Dell Axim X30, 624Mhz and all that. It sort of sucks...

]]>May 3rd 2007 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/10/palm-prepping-its-own-linux-based-os/May 27th 2007 5:42PM