http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/ Engadget Comments for iPhone hacked for shell access http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 7th 2007 7:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 10th 2007 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Second, shell access is the ULTIMATE hack. In a UNIX system, EVERYTHING goes through the command line. Everything from The Finder to Quartz to Photoshop is invoked via the CLI, your GUI is just a way to make it pretty. Now that we have shell access, you can edit system files (like the kind that lock us out) to allow you to do nearly anything with your phone.

Maybe once the iPhone is completely hacked, I might actually be interested in it, because if I can trick mine out, whip up a document editor, get some MMS and maybe some video going on, I'll be interested. Especially if it does WPA Enterprise.]]>Jul 7th 2007 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Yuss!]]>Jul 6th 2007 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Even after the issue is resolved and conquered, it'll be that last little fall-back for haters.

Chris]]>Jul 7th 2007 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/]]>Jul 6th 2007 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 7th 2007 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
It makes no sense to me. It is either a good idea to lock down the device and limit the functionality, or it isn't. I hear time and time again that the problem with Symbian, or Windows Mobile, or PalmOS, or anything that isn't made by Apple is that it is too complicated, and you have to be some sort of hacker to get anything to work. Yet here we are all excited that some hackers might, after what will probably be weeks of work, add functionality that you can add to any of thoes other devices just by downloading and installing a program.

Are people really that enamored by pretty animations and transitions?]]>Jul 6th 2007 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Hacking is fun.]]>Jul 6th 2007 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 10:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
I am excited about iPhone hacks because they will enable smart hackers who have fun doing it hacking it open so the rest of us can get around the lockdown limitation.]]>Jul 8th 2007 4:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
I can't wait to read the headline one day "BIG MAC ATTACK"! All OSX based products will be vunerable to the deadly iPoone virus!

Keep hacking boys!]]>Jul 6th 2007 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
I have shell access to my Linux box, but that doesn't mean it will get viruses ...]]>Jul 6th 2007 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Hmm. That headline makes me think of a 50 story BigMac comming to take over the world..

Not a virus attack towards Mac. And if anything all that one might be able to do when they crack the iPhone wide open is maybe create a virus or 2 for the phone.. Not make the phone a virus.]]>Jul 6th 2007 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
a) the libs with exploitations get fixed quicker (average joe will not want to *keep* updating their iphone/itunes software)

and

b) the composition of linux boxes vary so much writing viruses is hard - this is why services get targeted rather than the OS (iphone is a pretty standard platform, so one exploit found should technically work across all iphones)

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I have shell access to my Linux box, and I can execute arbitrary code, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be running rm -R *]]>Jul 7th 2007 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 7th 2007 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 9:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 9:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
But, I guess since my HTC Apache doesn't have an Apple logo on it, all that functionality that I have (and more) is a moot point. Meh]]>Jul 6th 2007 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
As murray said, "hacking is fun". Doesn't matter whether it's an iPhone, a Roomba, or an Aibo. If you don't get it, you will never get it!]]>Jul 6th 2007 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 6th 2007 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Sure "hacking" is fun for a select few, but how many of those +500,000 early-adopters are going to want to hack their pricey phones and invalidate their AppleCare or whatever, that they bought for ease of use?

Example: I was watching ShinyMedia interview people lined up to buy the iPhone. The girl was offering 100 cash, an n95 AND an HTC Elf to people who had bought iPhones for a trade and they were saying, "heck no". The n95 goes for about 600 bucks, Elf for maybe 199, and 100 cash. Almost 900 to trade for a 499 phone, but these people lacked the common sense or deep knowledge of mobile phones to understand the value of the offer.

And these are the people who are gonna want to hack into their phones so they have basic functionality like file browsing and storage?]]>Jul 6th 2007 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Several things here;

Has it occured to you that hmmm... I dunno... maybe the person actually wanted their iPhone and didn't care for the n95 or the ELF? I don't care how cool you personally think those phones are, has it occured to you that the person in line does not share your sentiments? So you would have traded yours. Good for you. That doesn't mean anyone who doesn't take that trade is a fool. Especially since the person waited hours in line for the iPhone it is a foregone conclusion that they actually want the iPhone. I'm sure if they preferred the n95 they would have hit up Nokia.com already.

Second, if you think the person who didn't take the trade is a fool what does that say about the person offering the trade? According to you the n95 and the ELF are the best thing since pants with pockets so who in their right mind would voluntarily give it up? I know, someone who wants an IPHONE!!! In both of those scenarios the iPhone is far more valuable to those two than the $600 n95. So what does that tell you?

Third, when an offer is too good to be true; often times it isn't true. Those phones were probably DOA. There was no way the person could have known if the n95 and the ELF were both functional. Maybe it was a scam. If you would have been so gullible to take that trade then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you.

I am a phone junky and I have heard and read extensively about a lot of different mobiles, even those NOT available in the US. But if anyone were to offer me any of those for my iPhone I would flat out tell them to go to hell. I want my iPhone. Yes that includes an offer for the Vertu or the LG Prada well. As far as I am concerned, the iPhone is the be all end all of phones. ]]>Jul 6th 2007 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
I hope you read this because I'm going to address each of your points:

With regard to common sense or deep knowledge, I am relating their lack of familiarity with two well-known mobile devices to their desire to HACK into it so that it does more of what they want it to. The average person who will want to hack into their phone is going to have knowledge of what phones are out there, and will know that they are being offered 900 bucks for something that costs 499. So, you didn't weaken my argument there.

As for it occurring to me that the person actually wanted the iPhone, sure I knew because they obviously turned it down. I made my point to show that if they want a phone that does all of the things they'd have to hack it to enable it to do, they would have considered the other phones.

I didn't say that anyone who would trade is a fool, I said that those who wouldn't lack a certain amount of familiarity with devices and would THEREFORE be a lot less likely to want to hack into them, or know how--especially since so many comments relate hacking to being cool.

As for their waiting for hours in line, we all know that there were enough that they really didn't have to. They only did because they wanted to be the FIRST, and on that note, many of them were the first to be backed up in a long line of activations many of which didn't complete until well into the weekend.

Now, as for the iPhone being far more valuable to them, certainly it was because again, they turned the offer down. I'm not saying they didn't turn it down or that the iPhone wasn't valuable to them.

Also, you totally misquote me as saying that the Elf and n95 are cool phones. I said no such thing, I just referred to what they can do out of the box, and how much they cost. I didn't say they were better.

As to the truth of the offer, who cares? They weren't actually asking to trade, they were asking IF the person would trade. No one asked what the phones were, or how much they were worth, or anything like that. There was no inquiry by the askee, hence my conclusion that they are going to be a LOT less likely to want to hack the iPhone for functionality.

I'm an iPhone junky too and I bought and returned mine cuz it didn't do what I wanted it to and I didn't want to have to deal with hacking into it. If you are into telling people to go to hell because they make a hypothetical offer to you for interview's sake, then that's your business.

I'm not saying iPhone junkies don't want their iPhones, but I am saying the majority of them don't want to hack into them for functionality. They want their stuff to work out of the box. Hacking into it is not at the top of their list.]]>Jul 7th 2007 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 7th 2007 12:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=f390265dcbb9e1f1da97a69637e921d39b6c99aa

The bullet is for all iPhone hater's effin buttocks. You alien-human hybrid meat-heads.]]>Jul 7th 2007 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
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that link may be cooler.]]>Jul 7th 2007 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 7th 2007 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 10th 2007 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.texasenvironment.org/ewaste_apple.cfm

Unfortunately, when I tried disposing an iPod shuffle to them, they wouldn't accept it. Their policy isn't being consistently applied.]]>Jul 10th 2007 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 10th 2007 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 7th 2007 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
"I hope that they manage to hackear it and abrilo soon, single I am hoping that to buy it and to be able to use it in Mexico here… "

And while I don't live in Mexico, and I'm hardly a fan of Slim's monopoly there, I have to say that a Mexican iPhone would be cool.]]>Jul 7th 2007 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
Please make one without the phone and with an 80GB hard drive. Keep everything else the same and sell for $399. I will buy one of those.

Skype and iChat with the camera in front would be fun.

I'm sure this is just the beginning.]]>Jul 7th 2007 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/
And called it the Newton.]]>Jul 7th 2007 7:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/06/iphone-hacked-for-shell-access/Jul 20th 2007 12:17AM