http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/ Engadget Comments for Another lawsuit claims Apple, AT&T weren't forthright about iPhone batteries http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
but it is outrageously greedy to manufacture a phone w/out a user-replacable battery. and there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for this except pure greed on Apple's part.]]>Aug 17th 2007 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
don't believe the Jobs jive, man. its greed.]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
Say that they didn't want to, or admit that it was a profit driven decision, but don't appologize for them by saying it was impossible.]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
Delays are often costlier than a handful of ticked off customers, so I can completely understand Apple's decision.]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
/Apple fanboism]]>Aug 17th 2007 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/keeps lawyers
in bread and butter]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
Sounds a bit sh!t to me.

Go lawsuit man, go!


]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/The other issue is with the closed system of batteries. Why not make it like any other cell phone out there with replaceable batteries and available extended batteries at retail, not through a shifty expensive mail in program. It works for ipods, because they are non essential devices, but a cell phone that holds all your contacts? Can you give that up for a week or more while its "in transit"?]]>Aug 17th 2007 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
Cheers!

KJ]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
he isn't suing based on personal experience he is suing based on complete supposition and inference based on wording in a manual.

manuals which... tend to use fairly conservative estimates on all sorts of things in order to lessen potential liability.

anyone thinking the iPhone battery would last a million years and never need replacing apparently has never used a battery powered device in their entire lifetime. talk about naive.

that said... it really should have been designed with an easily removable battery like people tend to expect on a mobile phone.

but the non-easily-removability was not a top secret piece of information... it was reported on within minutes of the iPhone being announced in January. ]]>Aug 17th 2007 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
300-400 has not changed for the 10years + that li-ion's have been around.

should they speel out every other detial as well? "apple didn't tell me screens break if you hit them! I'm suiing them!"

apple didn't say you have to recharge it! that costs me money in my electric bill!

apple didn't tell me I needed a pocket! I don't have pockets!

I'm deaf, I hate apple, they didn't explain what a phone is!

li-ion's are this way in laptops, all ipods, and every other device that uses em.

if omeone is a tech n00b, they're a tech n00b, that's not apples fault.]]>Aug 17th 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
And I apologize for the Fox News comment engadget, I don't mean it, I don't wish that on anyone.]]>Aug 17th 2007 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
You Apple FanBoyz crack me up.]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/tag/minione]]>Aug 17th 2007 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 18th 2007 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/The life of a lithium ion cell is highly dependent on how it's treated. Leave it in a hot car for a few hours several times and you'll diminish the life greatly, even if it's not been cycled that much. Also, some batteries just die prematurely because of manufacturing defects.

The sealed battery in the iPhone is a major limitation IMHO. I don't think the lawsuits have merit, but Apple could have made the battery removable with virtually no sacrifice in thickness or cost.
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That 300 charge number sounds much too far fetched for my tastes, not that it makes this sort of judicial blackmail OK, but it's still a shady claim. As far as I know, it's impossible for a battery to hold a FULL charge for that long, and even less possible to know exactly how much charge it would hold after a couple hundred charges. ]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/IF you are going to sell a handset with a sealed battery on a 2 year contract you had better guarantee that handset for 2 years... ? I think he deserves a shot at this IF the batteries are dieing before the 2 year contract is up.......]]>Aug 17th 2007 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/
not so much a fanboy just dont like people who bash companies cuz its the "in" thing to do]]>Aug 17th 2007 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/He was saying APPLE is loaded, not the customers. Lrn2read]]>Aug 18th 2007 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/people be crazy bout this battery.]]>Aug 17th 2007 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/17/lawsuit-claims-apple-atandt-werent-forthright-about-iphone-batte/Aug 17th 2007 2:37PM