http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Oh yeah and they forget to ask to include GPS .. and CRUCIALLY make the GPS software UI decent .. license from telenav, tomtom, garmin, etc. Make easily it be work with google or mapquest maps.
]]>Aug 21st 2007 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/I've sworn to drop Palm forever unless they get their crap together in the next 6 months.]]>Aug 21st 2007 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Coz I don't think none of them in Palm never thought of what's need to be done and changed like you people suggested. It's a no brainer, but obviously hit us real hard on why didn't they do it..? But came out something like Foleo crap instead.

Can never understand what's the people up there in Palm were thinking, they knew it, trust me, but they just don't do it.]]>Aug 23rd 2007 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
I've been a Palm user since the Palm Pilot Pro (1997? EGAD!). I've gone through Palm III, Palm IIIxe, Palm IIIc. When I saw the first big pivoting screen Sony Clié NR70V, I switched. It seemed even then, 2002, that Palm was in design stasis.

When my Clié died, I was bereft and reluctantly moved back to Palm and the TX. It's not a bad thing, but the OS just seems like it hasn't changed much since version 3, maybe 2. The mystery Garnet or OS 6 or whatever Palm is/was calling it never seems to materialize. And I thought Palm had Apple roots (shipping, stable products), not Microsoft's (delayed, bloated, stolen or acquired) bastard heritage.

I looked at the Treo line. While somewhat compelling, I HATE those nasty little keyboards; I have adult fingers. Call me crazy, but I like using a stylus and Grafitti.

I always thought that a truly GREAT Palm PDA phone would combine all the best features of the Palm TX... 128MB RAM (or more), big screen, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, SD card slot, on-screen keypad OR Grafitti ... with the phone guts of the Treo line, sans the crappy smurf keyboard.

Apple beat 'em to it, in some ways, with the iPhone. But I STILL like some of my old Palm software: DateBk 6, SuperNames, Brainforest, Vindigo.

So, why can't Palm do something like this instead of existing in it's un-dead state?]]>Aug 22nd 2007 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Proud new owner of an iPhone.

Palm, I would love to come back, but you've got a lot of work to do. Hope to see you in 2 years.]]>Aug 23rd 2007 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Data connection rates in Mexico are overkill, and I'm surrounded by Wifi connections everywhere... it's a waste not to use them properly!]]>Aug 24th 2007 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
And you can't say: well the devices do much more than the old V did. Tech has updated enough that yes, you can create a device that can do more, but tech has updated enough that you can create a platform that is robust and reliable (especially after 5 iterations of the same basic OS).

My fav line in the letter: "You guys need to go back to the drawing board (and back to your roots) and figure out how to optimize the smartphone experience of 2007/8 just like you optimized the PDA experience ten years ago." ]]>Aug 21st 2007 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/I had such high hopes when I first bought my Treo 180 (then 600, then 650), but I'm a Nokia user now and the speed that they are moving with their platform just leaves Palm in the dust.
It's tough to see if they'll ever catch up.]]>Aug 21st 2007 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/It is now very dated.
Problem is, Palm hasn't really made radical changes since then.
*sighs and fondles an iPhone and contemplates.....
Alex]]>Aug 21st 2007 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Now you can't even FIND OUT what is going on-- or even get clues.

Palm should be asking their developers for help, not ignoring them so they go off and write for Windows Mobile.

]]>Aug 22nd 2007 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/new bar? guess so]]>Aug 21st 2007 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/if the commenting didnt take so long...]]>Aug 21st 2007 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Particularly about the OPEN platform and tinker-ability!

I still have my Tungsten-E and though I was pretty annoyed by the lack of Wifi ability (you saved that the for E2 instead, and I can't use an official card of any kind with it). I have to admit, I am one of those people looking elsewhere for a replacement when this one dies... I'd prefer a Palm, but you aren't giving me (us) much of a choice right now!]]>Aug 21st 2007 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 23rd 2007 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 25th 2007 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Anyone else need a history lesson?]]>Aug 21st 2007 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Hawkins]]>Aug 21st 2007 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 10:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Isn't it interesting how much the Treo 755 has come full circle to look more like the original Treo? And oh, let's see. The Treo 90 was .2 THINNER than the 755!


The other thing is, you've gotta make everyone WANT it. It's gotta be craveable. When the Treo came out, it was craveable because Palms were a big deal, and combining it with a cell phone was unbelievably AWESOME. Like combining an iPod with a smartphone. Now, THAT's an idea. They need to innovate with it, not just improve it.
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The 7135 is getting a bit old, and can't run OS5 apps, but I just bought a ton of accessories cheap on eBay (keyboard, batteries, car kit, etc) and refuse to replace it until there's a new Palm phone that's a clamshell, or at least slider design. I'm so tired of all the Treo owners/websites spending half their time and money on stupid/bulky cases/clips. My 7135 just folds shut. No case - perfectly protected. It's dropped on the floor many times in four years and still works perfectly with no scratches on the screen of keys. I've got a 2GB SD card, and with BeBopper it makes a pretty good mp3 player.]]>Aug 21st 2007 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Written from my iPhone.]]>Sep 5th 2007 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Palm devices used to be my favorite gadget, I used to buy the next new model when they came out, but now there is no point. You get the same features buying one that was released this year as you do from one released 6 years ago.]]>Aug 21st 2007 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
You are teh Foleo diss king!]]>Aug 21st 2007 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/Aug 21st 2007 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
I bought a 600 & a 680 the day they came out.. now I'm looking for a new phone but am not able to find anything from Palm that meets my standards. My fiancee wants a smartphone as well but I'm not letting her buy any of Palm's current offerings either. STEP UP TO THE PLATE OR GET OUT OF THE PARK.]]>Aug 21st 2007 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
Well done!]]>Aug 21st 2007 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention/
not a smartphone by conventional terms, being that a smartphone is a platform device that allows software to be installed

IPHONE is closed and controlled by Apple, whereas smartphones are supported by a third-party ecosystem in which independent software vendors compete to create commercially successful apps.

"Feature phones have third-party applications too, but these are relatively weak and limited applications that work with the middleware such as Java and Brew," explained Solis.

"Applications designed for smartphones can be written to access core functionality from the operating system itself, and are therefore usually more powerful and efficient.

"The competition in an open environment also yields more cutting-edge, rich applications."

IPHONE=smartphone don't think so

No expandable memory.
No removable battery.
No Exchange or Office support

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Clearly if you are complaining about it you don't have one. Why can't you just leave it at that. you think by adding comments on engadget that Apple will sudenley process all of your complaints and change the phone so it matches your every need. We would all love for that to happen, but unless you're Steve Jobbs, it won't. People should stop complaining and deal with it. there is no need for you to constantly write messages pointing out the flaws of the phone. just buy it if you like it or don't if you don't. ]]>Aug 21st 2007 3:36PM