http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/ Engadget Comments for Apple hit with class-action antitrust lawsuit over bricked iPhones http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/I have one, but I don't remember any guns being held to my head when I was making the purchase.]]>Oct 9th 2007 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
I disagree that Apple should be required to sell unlocked phones... but if they do, I hope they charge accordingly and hang a "this is not supported" sign on the package.]]>Oct 8th 2007 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
I guess Apple fanboys have too much money to blow.]]>Oct 8th 2007 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
For those that chose to fight the law (Apple), don't be surprised when the law wins.]]>Oct 8th 2007 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your perspective), popularity or previous practices in an industry does not create law.

Therefore, it is not a valid reason to state they should be REQUIRED to sell unlocked phones. The ONLY reason that Apple should be REQUIRED to sell an unlocked phone is because market forces would put them out of business otherwise.

Does anyone really WANT the government involved in more things?

That being said, I do believe that even hacked, bricked phone users have as much of a complaint against Apple as non bricked users?

Why?

Because based on the number ratio of hacked and non-hacked phones that were bricked, it is obvious that hacking was not the cause of the bricking. I also do not believe that warranty should be a factor as it was Apples own actions that caused these phones to become inoperable.

Lawsuites aside, I think Apple should offer a way to restore functionality to ANY phone as a sign of good will toward the 3rd party app community. You just never want to make the mistake of thinking you are immune to market forces. You just don't want to risk any action that could put you on their bad side.]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
"I also do not believe that warranty should be a factor as it was Apples own actions that caused these phones to become inoperable."

I disagree. Warranty is most definitely a factor. If someone hacks their phone, they voided the phone's warranty. Apple stated this before they released the update. If one's phone is bricked and that person DIDN'T hack their phone, they have a valid warranty claim and should take it right to Apple.

I'm sure they'll be able to tell if a person has hacked the device or not, and if not, will fix it under the warranty.]]>Oct 8th 2007 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 9th 2007 5:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Apple is getting a bad reputation for controlling and sucking the blood out of its customers. The iPhone could be amazing as long as Apple got out of the way. French consumer laws are correct and should be tested here. Paying full price to my mind means you should have the right to unlock the phone. You guys act as though the iPhone invented the brick… oops well they kind of did eh?
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I complained to Honda that the vehicle was unstable but they would not fix the car. They said I had modified it from factory specs. This is rediculous. They should take pride in their product.

If you have this same problem with your honda FIT, please join my in my class action lawsuit against Honda. ]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
Every IPHONE sold goes back to shareholders with a projected 24 month earnings attached to the device.

If they remove that additional revenue from their projections, forecasts, etc., they'd have to raise the device cost substantially to sastisfy the value of product investment and shareholder expectations.

You see, you may think Apple is out there to serve you but you are wrong. They are out there to make money by offering products that people want to buy. But the key to that sentence is that they are out to MAKE MONEY. Unlocking your phone deflects Apple's ability to MAKE MONEY.

]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/If I bought a gasoline-powered car, I would be wise to fill it with gasoline. If I put diesel in the tank, the car probably wouldn't start. Would the manufacturer be liable for my decision to put diesel in it? Is it their responsibility to make sure I can fuel the car with whatever I want?
Granted, I certainly think we should be allowed to do whatever we want to our iphones (it's a general "we": I won't buy one. Yet), but I don't think it's Apple's responsibility to support extra hackery. I have no idea if the 1.1.1 update maliciously bricked the phones, but if so, so what? If you're going to alter the thing, don't update it!]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 9:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/I'd say mucking with the modem firmware IS causing irreparable damage. I mean, it obviously is if you can restore the ipod and bring it into an Apple Store and they can still tell that you tried to unlock it.]]>Oct 9th 2007 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 10th 2007 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/You guys didn't even post that rocket powered X-Wing? what gives?]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 9th 2007 6:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
:D]]>Oct 8th 2007 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
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I know that we are in the land of pointless lawsuits filling up lawyers pockets and valuable court time but now we're suing because of violating the warranty?

It's really simple and Apple has been around for long enough for everybody to realize this:

Apple tells you how, when, and to what extent you can use their product. If you don't like that then it's really simple...DON'T BUY APPLE PRODUCTS.]]>Oct 8th 2007 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
Don't tell me about how it's the update service's fault because it didn't reach out and twist your arm into running the update.

I'm tired of people bitching about the iPhone. Nothing was a surprise people, you knew what you were getting when you bought it.

They said...no apps except janky Web 2.0, closed source, ATT for the first 5 years....They said all that and you bought it anyway..Then, you hacked the phone and when the new update came out you blindly updated it, instead of waiting..so repeat after me "I am the cause of my own problems"

Your bitching is just fuel for all the haters...think of that.
Every time some moron sues because of their bricked phone Bill Gates smiles.]]>Oct 8th 2007 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
I say, keep 'em coming!]]>Oct 9th 2007 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/its that hard to understand, its a perfect example of what someone said before that its like if you where to sue your tv manufactures for not being apple to watch tv after you cut the power cord on it LOL ]]>Oct 8th 2007 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/
Apple never forced people to buy the iphone. You want it you get it with an AT & T contract.

Simple as that.

Even when the new update was released, apple warned it could bar and not like your unlocked iphones be usable. The warning was given, yet people went ahead and screwed up their iphones..

and now they are suing apple for it?

Strange.

People are given choices all the time, yet they are so stupid, they screw up and eventually blame the maker. Typical

I use an apple iphone, i bought it knowing the risks i would be taking on unlocking it, i went ahead and unlocked it but i was not stupid to go ahead and update it with the latest firmware. The warning for it was everywhere, from community members to even apple mentioning it..

These morons deserve their bricked iphones]]>Oct 8th 2007 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/

to: peternj
"Apple is getting a bad reputation for controlling and sucking the blood out of its customers."

Umm, not really, I've owned 4 Macs in twenty years, pretty good life span on their products. Can't say that with other computers.

All these ass hats that thought you were a cool hacker and all the really did was install software installed third software, if you you were somewhat smart, you would have restored the iPhone back to factory settings BEFORE applying the update.

3 iPhones in my family and not a problem yet. Go figure, I'm using it as intended, who knew. /sarcasm
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The original post should have included this.]]>Oct 9th 2007 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/Oct 8th 2007 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/]]>Oct 8th 2007 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/apple-hit-with-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-over-bricked-iphon/whats an iPhone anyway?]]>Oct 8th 2007 9:40PM