http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/ Engadget Comments for Palm Centro review http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 13th 2007 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
There isn't a SINGLE innovation in this device. Not a single feature stands out and says "hey, look at me, I'm different".

Even at a $99 (subsidy price) level there is room for innovation and Palm have just missed every single opportunity. A mediocre device from a mediocre company. From basic design flaws to a limited and outdated OS, it's the phone you'd expect from them in 2003.

They are doomed to follow their Folio.]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
That pops out at me...........]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
Then is there some "missing features" that actually have BIG negative sides, as WiFi and GPS that eat battery... Or skinny designs, that instead are dramatically wider and don't have touch screens,,,

Finally wrote Engadget.. "Another flaw which Palm's designers don't seem to get is the sunken screen. Look, do you even use your devices?" ..forgetting completely that your face would both activate the touch screens and make it VERY greasy, if it NOT was safely located!]]>Oct 14th 2007 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 1:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
I know that a consistent editorial style is important, but reading "we" so frequently, when it's obviously supposed to read, "I," is tiresome and seems a little dishonest in a hands-on review. I'm not trying to be snotty, I'm just wondering if an exception can be made for reviews to use the word, "I." It would really help the flow. And, not to nitpick, but in the second to last paragraph, please use "jibe," rather than "jive."]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Peter, you're definately not the first who talks about evdo, edge, gprs/gsm data as a substitute for wifi, but you and everyone else with that point of view forgets all the millions of potential buyers *worldwide* who doesn't have the option of unlimited data subscriptions with their phone companies. Thus, we have to pay per MB down/uploaded, and at home or in the office or elsewhere where we can find free hotspots wifi support would be highly wanted.
And by the way, it just adds to my growing irritation that Palm seems to lag more and more behind the other phone developers in terms of specifications - why, I have to ask.]]>Oct 14th 2007 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
A touch-sensitive thumb-swipe sensor along the upper-right ridge next to the screen, may solve the goofy drop-down menu situ.]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/I'm so tired of people making that grammar mistake...]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 3:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 12:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
In fact, every other part of the phone is the same. Sad huh? Palm really needs to release new features in their phones. I work at a Palm store and when a customer asks me what the differences between the phones are I have to sadly tell them "Carrier and OS" because those are the only differentiating features to talk about. (With the exception of the 680 which doesn't have 3G and only has a VGA camera instead of 1.3MP.)


Good news though, I have heard from a higher up at Palm that they are working on a new Palm OS.]]>Oct 15th 2007 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Hey check out my calculator watch! Its futuristic! It goes great with my Palm Centro.]]>Oct 14th 2007 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 1:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
No it doesn't, unless your standards are really low.]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 15th 2007 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/From what I have read, nearly every whine about Apple locking down the system is really whining about Apple fixing security holes and making the internal *non-documented* API. Sure, sue them for that.
Stop making my iPhone better Apple! I liked it when it had bugs!
]]>Oct 14th 2007 1:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
Bravo! I agree. I love the iPhone and do want one but I can't use it until we have better notepad/memo integration with searching, copy and pasting, etc. I also need to install a few programs before I can use it; namely Epocrates (a medical program). Finally, I really like a tactile keyboard (though the virtual is not a deal-breaker by any means). Times like these I wish they'd just work TOGETHER to make things better!]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
I typed my comment on my iPhone too!! Of course it's the best out there, but it's been 3.5 months with nothing new added except the iTunes store and Video out, hardly the features people have been asking for. When all of those early reviews for the iPhone came out, and everyone had their top 10 features that they wantd, I didn't seen iTunes Wifi store and video out on there. I saw landscape keyobard (how hard is this to add???) and bluetooth syncing(another feature the centro has that we don't) It is the best device out there in my opinion but I still get frustrated. Apple needs to spend more time fixing the glaring omissions instead of locking down the device.]]>Oct 14th 2007 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/


As to "stabilizing" their API, let Apple fiddle as much as they want. I've had few security/stability problems with add-ons in Palm OS, and I think the consumer should decide what 3rd party application is worth the risk of "instability".]]>Oct 14th 2007 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
http://answers.nobosh.com/questions/What%27s-the-market-share-of-the-leading-mobile-devices%3F/126692/]]>Oct 14th 2007 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
Overall the Centro looks great. I don't plan on getting one, but if I did it's certainly a good deal if I needed a new 2 year contract, a smart phone, and save a little money at the same time.]]>Oct 14th 2007 2:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 15th 2007 7:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
I probably wouldn't hate every second using it, but it's not a phone that would get any kind of positive response from people seeing it. It looks old, badly designed and at best, boring.]]>Oct 14th 2007 4:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 6:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 14th 2007 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/Oct 15th 2007 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/The lead based paint on the keys will kill you fast enough that you can save on the extended service plan.]]>Oct 14th 2007 7:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
I love you and I want to see you succeed. You were my first PDA. Though my Sony-Ericsson phone and Blackberry have far surpassed what I can do with you. I still have my Zire 72 that was a replacement for my Ipaq. Here are some next steps that you should have your mobile developers to work on during the holidays for your new and existing phones.


*Dig Up BeOS (I miss my 15 seconds boots)
*Put a wifi chip onboard
*Tinker with BONE to get it working with wifi and bluetooth (make sure to turn of ftp and telnet), add little pluses like Bluetooth PAN support and wifi as an access point over the cellular connection (gsm/cdma)
*Up front Camera for 3G Calling (Integrate it with CodyCam)
*Replace Blazer with NetPositive
*Update Mail with BeMail
*Call Sling Media and tell them you want a SlingPlayer for BeOS (they're really smart and can figure it out)
*Slip Exchange ActiveSync in there
*Tweak mediaplayer to work like ptunes just better.
*SMS/MMS/VoiceMS App

That's all for now]]>Oct 14th 2007 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
They didn't listen all this time, why would they listen now?

Don't bother. You are talking to ghosts.

The world has moved on, Palm.]]>Oct 14th 2007 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/13/palm-centro-review/
I had a WM version of a Treo, and I'm glad to be back to the speedy Palm OS. All you people complaining about the age of the OS, and the lack of modern features... go buy a different phone. This one works just fine for me. WiFi might be nice... but I don't really copy that many files back and forth between my PC and my phone, and I can surf the web just fine with the Sprint data plan I've got. WiFi isn't that much of a deal breaker for me.

Flame away... but I think this Centro should meet my needs for 2 years until I can upgrade again.]]>Oct 14th 2007 8:47AM