http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/ Engadget Comments for Google getting cozy with Verizon and Sprint for the Gphone? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/This is why I am working my ass to the bone in a cube, and the dudes downtown are buying 3 million dollar apartments and piles of cocaine.]]>Oct 31st 2007 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/I didn't realize this till I was at the Verizon store a couple weeks ago, but it seems almost all their new phones have 2 UI's now. The horrid Verizon one and the one from the manufacturer that is actually nice.]]>Oct 31st 2007 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
Back to the topic at hand, I'm excited that all the Google goodness will be going CDMA / EVDO instead of GSM / HSDPA.

Living in Kansas City, CDMA is the best choice for cell users who actually use data.

Bring it on!]]>Oct 31st 2007 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
Look at the really technologically advanced countries, like Korea (and Japan?), they use CDMA. But they also have R-UIM cards. Bastards.]]>Oct 31st 2007 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/

typed in all caps for hope that it will actually be worth something]]>Oct 31st 2007 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
Agreed on both counts ... plus, a handset gets you exactly that, A handset. Software allows the Google machine to spread into a *much* greater population of phones.

I am excited :)]]>Oct 31st 2007 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
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Only thing I would love is ITUNES support but we know that's not going to happen. Guess I'll still have my phone + ipod...]]>Oct 31st 2007 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
And learn up about how Verizon messes with phones. The point being, they DON'T mess with the high end phones, like what this would be.]]>Oct 31st 2007 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
CDMA phones don't unlock the same way as GSM, CDMA phones don't have simcards. The programming is stored in the phone, and it is locked by the network.]]>Oct 31st 2007 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
How can you say that anyone can or cannot use this when we don't even know wtf "this" is?!

I too hope Google does something with T-mobile... I was going to buy a new Shadow, but now I might wait for this announcement before pulling the trigger.]]>Oct 31st 2007 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
I'm no expert in this stuff so don't come at me like I'm lying or deceiving. I could very well just be completely wrong.]]>Oct 31st 2007 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
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Even if CDMA is superior, GSM is used in most places, meaning CDMA phones turn into bricks when you travel, unless they are dual mode like one of the BlackBerry phones.]]>Oct 31st 2007 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
@FRED

iAM sorry but i live in Westchester Ny and work in the city and ive traveled to boston down to Miami over to Cali and Vegas and ive never been in an area that i didnt get cell coverage and i have Sprint. I am sure Verizon has the same coverage. So unless you live in WESTBUMBLEFUK on a farm iam sure u get CDMA service. Now understand all the large markets HAVE coverage for CDMA which is probably the market that these companies shoot for.

I dont know one person who has ATT, othen then the snooty people at my job that have an iphone i dont know anyone that has ATT and only a couple that have Tmobile which they hate.

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1) remove the burdon of voice mail from each vendor, and just do voice messages stored in a gmail message attachment. then put mobile gmail into this gphone app suite.

2) same thing, but for sms txt messaging - replace it with google talk.

3) the common app suite then integrates ads (small intro voice ad if you call for your voice mail?), and the carriers reduce rate costs in exchange for part of the ad revenue.

4) oh, and google maps application, with location detection and similar features, in the suite.

5) deploy for symbian, nokia linux (maemo), motorola linux, midlet java, and maybe even for desktop java (windows, linux, and mac laptops with pc card or usb mobile devices)
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Uhh... did you forget that they've been purchased by NewsCorp (Rupert Murdoch)? All credibility the WSJ ever had is out the window. So while this may be legit, you should never ever consider the WSJ safe from rumor-mongering.]]>Oct 31st 2007 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Oct 31st 2007 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
GSM Vs. CDMA.

CDMA is great for carriers. The phones are locked to them (The network to use is hard-coded in the firmware) and they can oversubscribe available bandwidth massively.

GSM, however, is better for consumers. If you want to change networks, you pop out the SIM card for your old network and pop in a new SIM for the new network. Travel outside the US at all? You NEED GSM (As the US + subsidiaries are the ONLY countries that use it). Want guaranteed call quality? GSM is the answer. Each cell tower has enough bandwidth allocated for it's available channels, as the number of available channels is fixed by available bandwidth, rather than variable by demand like CDMA is.

GSM has it's data seperate from the voice network (Well, apart from SMS), and uses (In order of slowness) GPRS (Slowest), EDGE or UMTS (Fastest) (Depending on coverage for that area). This means lots of people downloading masses of data doesn't affect calling quality at all.

GSM has industry adoption the world over, whereas CDMA only has it's niche in the US/Canada. The only people who come forth in support of CDMA are people who are (or were formerly) employees of Qualcomm. And considering it was Qualcomm that came up with CDMA, that's not all that surprising.]]>Oct 31st 2007 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/Engadget: "Verizon dumps CDMA for GSM-based LTE in 4G networks"
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/verizon-dumps-cdma-for-gsm-based-lte-in-4g-networks/
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Ever hear of R-UIM? No? Google it. China and Korea (and possibly others) use it.

I can go take my Verizon phone, or my friend's Sprint phone, to China, Africa, Korea, or where ever and use it on the CDMA networks there.]]>Oct 31st 2007 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/31/google-getting-cozy-with-verizon-and-sprint-for-the-gphone/
And, if Google did a phone, they'd probably make it a world phone, and just go GSM in Europe, and CDMA in the US and other countries.]]>Oct 31st 2007 6:41PM