http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2010 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
I strongly suggest giving this WIRED article a read: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/10/10-reasons-to-h.html "10 Reasons to Hate Cellphone Carriers"]]>Nov 2nd 2007 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
Wow, one sentence....*shot by grammar Nazis*]]>Nov 2nd 2007 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
Windows update for two computers, updates for Linux installs, constant Xbox live play, video streaming, media uploads, etc.

We hit their magic mark every month. About the same time every month, we get a sudden cut in speed. In fact, we go from 3mbs to about 750kbs. Split between three computers and an Xbox, thats not at all much.

Its a sad thing. Unfortunately, we dont know their magic mark, so we dont know when we are close to it either. I wish they would finally fess up to it and tell us what the mark is.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 10:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
Anyways, I bet Verizon wouldn't be particularly happy if we kept doing that.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
At my dorm, we hosted TONS of 16 player big match games on our (on average) 10 megabit up with unique, public, routable IPs. I checked out the upstream saturation graphs, and the Halo 3 launch caused a huge spike in upstream bandwidth use from my dorm at least.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umts. This is why I LOVE Sprint. Fastest EVDO, no data caps, cheapest plans, did I mention WiMAX??? Heller...]]>Nov 2nd 2007 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
any change to TOS is an immediate easy way out for you]]>Nov 3rd 2007 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 3rd 2007 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/]]>Nov 2nd 2007 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
This is for the new, cheaper plan that we've heard about recently.

So, as far as us being able to get out of our contracts... Looks like a no go, since we're not beholden to this T&C.

Or.. The CSR is full of it. Time shall tell.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
And to answer your question: they don't advertise it as "unlimited." Check the website. It's just called the Broadband Access plan. The word "unlimited" has been excluded from the plan description and name for quite some time now.

You want to talk about false advertisement, how about Alltel still showing those commercials about them being the only ones who offer plan changes without contract extension. Verizon Wireless stopped doing that just last month, and yet, the commercials remain.

I currently have Alltel, and I thought they were great till I started working for Verizon Wireless. People think Verizon is some shady company out to nickle and dime its customers, but it's actually not. Before I started working for VZW I thought they sounded shady too, but it really is all in the customers' heads. This company gives early phone upgrades to customers like you wouldn't believe at great prices. I have to wait till I'm within 3 months to the end of my contract with Alltel to get upgrade pricing, but if I had VZW I'd have been able to upgrade mid-contract back in June.

But back to the "unlimited" business, Engadget needs to stop reporting old news and making it sound new.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/]]>Nov 2nd 2007 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
I also hate (and have) at&t. How the FCC keeps allowing all these mergers between cell companies is total bull. The bigger they get, the smaller we get, and the more they screw us over.]]>Nov 2nd 2007 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/
Thanks.]]>Nov 3rd 2007 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 2nd 2007 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/Nov 3rd 2007 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/basically it works like...you pay me 30$ and you can get broadband speeds w/ ur cell service! Except..well, you can't do this and this and this ... and oh wait you can't do that either because i'm fat and a piece of shit and i want more food for my fat stomach and ur downloading from ur connexion takes food away from me...feed the greed! feed my wallet! fuck verizon, fuck all cell phone companies...i say we fucking nuke them all...destroy and rebuild
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I think that what they're doing now is probably about the best solution -- just sell "Wireless Mobile Broadband*", and have the caveat that if you go over some fairly high limit, you pay a smallish rate per GB. Most people will just read the headline, and be OK with the cap. Some people will read the fine print, and sign up anyway, figuring it's worth the extra if they go over. There will still be some people who don't read the fine print, and get pissed when they're throttled down, but as long as it's laid out ahead of time, it's their own damn fault for not reading it.]]>Nov 3rd 2007 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/02/verizon-updates-tandcs-to-further-redefine-unlimited-data-usage/2. Verizon rarely limits/blocks you even if you go over this limit.
3. Verizon doesn't actually limit what you can do physically - I Sling and read RSS and more, on my Verizon PDA.]]>Nov 3rd 2007 1:42PM